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EdF
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 Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 10:39 pm Post subject: Plasterboarding a Ceiling, a Time Saving Idea? |
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 I have an entire new bungalow to plasterboard out. I don't fancy the traditional way of cutting noggins to fit between the trusses to support the ceiling plasterboard edges and centres, as it's time consuming and awkward and usually uses quite hefty timber.. At the cost of losing an inch (25mm) of ceiling height, I thought I could run 50mm x 25mm timber laths at right angles to the trusses 600mm apart and secured underneath the trusses to support the edges and centres of the boards, then simply fill in the gaps with short bits between the long lengths to keep everything level. Should save loads of time, but what do you think?? :grin: |
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Jaeger_S2k
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| Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 10:49 pm Post subject: |
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What are the truss centres?
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EdF
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| Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 8:00 am Post subject: |
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600mm, new and just erected. They're loft trusses so a bit thicker than normal.. I thought this idea would be easier to put up than the conventional method.. Geez, never seen a site worker look like THAT before.  Bet you're popular.... or is it the wife..? |
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panlid
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| Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 8:20 am Post subject: |
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hi edf
im thinking in the time you have thought about this i would have had it noggined out  |
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andy-p-
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| Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 11:22 am Post subject: |
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| Yeah i agree it dont take that long |
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EdF
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| Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 12:08 pm Post subject: |
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| Panlid, it only took me a couple of seconds to think of it, though..! But why don't you like the idea, because it's not normally done like that?? I believe it would be quicker for me... Cuz... As a keen DIY'er (with arthritis, who prefers screwing to hammering (if you'll pardon the expression...) rather than a tradesman, I think I would find it easier... I understand from a Q.S who was here this morning that it is an accepted method, and due to the original building floor levels - it's a stone outbuilding conversion - I do have an excess of ceiling height... I also have a load of over-ordered sarking boards which I could rip to provide the battens, so it would save me buying more timber.. |
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panlid
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| Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 12:37 pm Post subject: |
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hi edf.
if it makes you happy do it. i never said i didnt like the idea and im not bothered about things being done the accepted way.
there are amny ways to skin a cat.
im just saying i would have just got on with noggining.
have fun with your lattice work  |
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EdF
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| Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 1:12 pm Post subject: |
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| Wotcha, no probs... Not sure it would make me happy, though!! If you don't have any preconceived ideas about how a job needs to be done, then I guess one tries to think of the easiest way. Years ago I had an emailed disagreement with a DIY magazine 'hints and tips' guy who insisted in an article that plasterboard nails were the ONLY method of fixing plasterboard, he abhorred the use of screws but gave no reason. He had obviously never tried them.. For me, it was no contest.. "Lazy people always try and find the easiest way of doing things." Sometimes it has the opposite effect, though... |
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panlid
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| Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 1:35 pm Post subject: |
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when a customer says to me to do whatever is easier for me i have to say its not whats easier for me its if you like the end product.
easiest for me is to put noggins in.
use a chop saw and knock em in then i use my paslode 4" nailer to nail em
i presume you have a paslode nailer |
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Jaeger_S2k
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| Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 4:25 pm Post subject: |
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| panlid wrote: |
i presume you have a paslode nailer |
I have, they're G R E A T ! ! 
Edf. You've got 600 trusses (wide ones) and you're going to cross them with 600 batons (that you've got to rip down).
I don't see the benefit? You're still going to need the odd noggin down the baton anyway.
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EdF
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| Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 8:13 pm Post subject: |
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| No, I don't have a Paslode, never been able to justify one, but the joiners here have two and I can see the advantages (although a friend put a nail through his finger with one!). The joiners are only constructing the shell, I'm 'fitting out'. Can't see why I would still need noggins... If I run long battens at right angles to the trusses, that is, the battens would run down the long edges and centres of the sheets of plasterboard, I would only need to fill in the 550mm or so between the battens with another short batten screwed or nailed to the underside of the truss to level things up... Everything would be screwed or nailed to the underside of the trusses, I don't have to try and hold a noggin in place with one hand and hammer a diagonal nail in with t'other.. I just don't fancy it.. I was only intending to rip boards to save buying timber for noggins, I feel that I can use a smaller dimension timber for battens than for noggins...??? I won't be able to reply to any posts for over a week as I'm travelling to the deep south tomorrow for a weeks holiday and to buy a Land Rover, I hope. Thanks for all replies to date.. (Do they have THEM on Blackpool beach??) |
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panlid
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| Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 8:17 pm Post subject: |
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| have a good time mate. i dont think you will need noggins and your plan seems ok to me. |
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EdF
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| Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 8:31 pm Post subject: |
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| Coo, ta... |
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john59
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| Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 9:49 pm Post subject: |
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| I want a pasload, they sound like fun |
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panlid
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| Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 9:52 pm Post subject: |
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oh for dear gods sake john
NNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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