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Jaeger_S2k
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 Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 10:57 pm Post subject: Petrol Prices, Vote now. Have your say? |
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Having presided over the first bank run in the UK since 1866, Alistair Darling is now about to add an extra 2.35p tax to every litre of fuel sold in the UK. This tax hike comes into force at the start of next week, just as oil prices are at record highs and every motorist is already being punished.
At PetrolPrices.com we want to help get motorists' voices heard and so we have prepared a vote. If you have an opinion about tax on fuel please vote and pass this email round to anyone you know who might want to vote as well.
Here is my blog post and vote page:
http://www.petrolprices.com/blog/we-cant-take-another-p-now-82.html
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Stoday
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| Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 12:09 am Post subject: |
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When I was at school in 1954 I had a Sunday job serving petrol on a forecourt. Cheapest (90 octane) petrol was 4/6 a gallon. Inflating that price by the increase of retail prices makes it £4.50 a gallon in today's prices. That's 99p a litre.
In the decades since 1954 earnings have risen far fastet than RPI so the effective cost of petrol has never been lower.
Sorry, Jugs, you've been taken in by the Road Haulage lobby and that maniac Taffy farmer. |
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skiking
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| Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 7:00 am Post subject: |
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The price of petrol is not directly conected to inflation it is more, if not only, controlled by demand - the more demand the higher the price set by OPEC. Usually the other non OPEC suppliers fall in line with these prices.
The TAX is usually connected to inflation. Over the last 3 or 4 years this tax has either been scrapped or delayed (like it is for 1 Oct) so we have missed out on some of the rises. We are still one of the highest priced countries altho' our European nieghbours are catching us up - even the US (still way behind us) are starting to load a Tax on petrol to discourage its usage. |
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tim'll fix it
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| Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 7:58 am Post subject: |
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motorists should be punished they polute the world, perhaps this will get some of the lard arses to walk or use a push bike
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skiking
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| Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 8:38 am Post subject: |
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I also disagree with the tone of the message. This has little or nowt to do with Alistair Darling as it was announced by Gordon Brown earlier in the year and postponed due to the then current price of fuel. The message also paints Darling as incompetent by inferring that its was on his watch when NR went tits up - no clarrification that this was purely a media hyped issue brought on by issues across the pond.
I don't particularly like paying extra for fuel but isn't this a time to take stock of our usage of our cars like nipping to the shops - walk instead - or being kids taxi for going up the road - again, do no harm for the kids to walk.
The only downside to the increase in fuel price is the knock on effect with the transportation system which then has an effect on the price of goods in the shops  |
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Jaeger_S2k
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| Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 9:14 am Post subject: |
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| Stoday wrote: |
When I was at school in 1954 I had a Sunday job serving petrol on a forecourt. Cheapest (90 octane) petrol was 4/6 a gallon. Inflating that price by the increase of retail prices makes it £4.50 a gallon in today's prices. That's 99p a litre.
In the decades since 1954 earnings have risen far fastet than RPI so the effective cost of petrol has never been lower.
Sorry, Jugs, you've been taken in by the Road Haulage lobby and that maniac Taffy farmer. |
 I'm surprised by that Stoday, you should know me better, I don't tend to get taken in by much, even you, but particularly the Road Haulage Lobby or that Farmer.
However if you'd ever been in the transport industry you'd know that the Hauliers are more concerned with keeping the UK Hauliers in line with Johnny European Foreigner and the price of fuel was just another 'tax' that made the UK hauliers even less competitive.
I don't give a toss what the price of fuel was in 19 hundred and frozen to death. I am concerned by the impact on ME the motorist and the taxes being levied on ME the motorist.
All the other 'debates' sprouting from this post 
You either agree the tax should be added to fuel or it shouldn't.
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Stoday
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| Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 11:43 am Post subject: |
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| Jaeger_S2k wrote: |
I'm surprised by that Stoday, you should know me better, I don't tend to get taken in by much, even you, but particularly the Road Haulage Lobby or that Farmer.
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It's they who have been stirring up a protest against a tax that's entirely reasonable to anyone who can think about the issues.
It's entirely natural to jump in without thinking, Jugs, so don't feel bad about it. That's what I mean by 'taken in'. Not that you're convinced by their false argument but that you absorb their message unconsciously. A bit like being taken in by advertising. We all do it. |
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Jaeger_S2k
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| Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 12:13 pm Post subject: |
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I wouldn't mind if I did and wouldn't repute it.
I haven't and didn't.
If 'we' put the tax to good use I'd gladly tick the yes box, but if I continue to accept taxation that is used to fund scrotum's to bread at an uncontrolled rate and are unaccountable for their actions, they will continue to support them with that very same misappropriated tax.
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tim'll fix it
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| Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 9:52 pm Post subject: |
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your cars a gas guzzler allan
BOOOOO you polluter, shame on you
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hamish72
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We have virtual no public transport the nearest shops are 13 miles away I use the car to shop there once every fortnight and really don't fancy trying to bring home 2 weeks worth of supplies on a push bike so tim'll fix it
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Welsh Decorator
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I think that some body should tell the Tresurey to shove the tax hike as far up there back passage as they can get it. 
Working for sod all as it is, what with other price hikes, and the big boys are still turning a massive, no, obcene proffit.
If things carry on the way they are, there will be open unrest, and it's the goverments fault, durring the 'fat years' nothing was put aside, now we are faceing the crap, the pot is empty, and the only way these idiots know to fill again, is more TAX.
Alan, I reckon you post this in the Lounge.
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Bludall
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My oh found a petrol receipt dated March 1998 the other day and it was 60.9p a litre of unleaded. Today we're paying 103.9p a litre!! 
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| Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 8:01 pm Post subject: |
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£1.179/litre diesel 
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Hitch
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| Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 8:49 pm Post subject: |
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Seen it as high as 1.199 in a few places, i expect theres some out that even dearer 
Average supermarket price seems about 1.169 for diesel 
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