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I'm no expert here, however I'm in the process of ripping out the terrible conversion job and doing it again.

I've found that the patio doors aren't actually fixed into the brick very well, but in addition, there doesn't appear to be a lintel.

It's only a single skin wall, and I'm no expert, but should there be a lintel or something here?

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 03, 2018 2:51 pm 
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Yes, there should be something. If it was a 9" wall then he there was a lintel on the internal skin you might get away with no lintel on the outer skin because it's possible it's carrying no load.
By the looks anyway the door looks like it's bowing and cracking.

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mick.mh2racing wrote:
Yes, there should be something. If it was a 9" wall then he there was a lintel on the internal skin you might get away with no lintel on the outer skin because it's possible it's carrying no load.
By the looks anyway the door looks like it's bowing and cracking.

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Pretty much what I thought..

Would explain why the doors never seem to close properly.

Fantastic. Looks like I'll have to take the door and and somehow get a concrete lintel in

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From the outside it won't be seen though so it doesn't really matter about aesthetics. Couple of props between a timber beam, door out, knock out the 2 course of brick. Lintel in, door back in and jobs a good un.
If you're redoing this extension did you plan on putting in an internal skin? I would definitely recommend you do, and lots of cavity insulation. Any habitable space won't be much use if you don't.

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mick.mh2racing wrote:
From the outside it won't be seen though so it doesn't really matter about aesthetics. Couple of props between a timber beam, door out, knock out the 2 course of brick. Lintel in, door back in and jobs a good un.
If you're redoing this extension did you plan on putting in an internal skin? I would definitely recommend you do, and lots of cavity insulation. Any habitable space won't be much use if you don't.

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Yep, putting in 100mm of Kingspan or similar.
Assuming it's possible to get an angled lintel so it's not visible from the outside

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Have a look at a Catnic lintel, not the cheapest but you don't see them other than the leading edge. I'd be building a 100 mm frame on the inside and filling it with rock wool as well as your kingspan. Can't have too much insulation.
I'm just knocking my conservatory down which had a 30mm cavity and was freezing in winter. 100 cavity with full fill and 75mm under the floor. I'd have more if I could fit it in.

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mick.mh2racing wrote:
Have a look at a Catnic lintel, not the cheapest but you don't see them other than the leading edge. I'd be building a 100 mm frame on the inside and filling it with rock wool as well as your kingspan. Can't have too much insulation.
I'm just knocking my conservatory down which had a 30mm cavity and was freezing in winter. 100 cavity with full fill and 75mm under the floor. I'd have more if I could fit it in.

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Cheers.

I've got a block column that supports the outer walls. Ideal I want the plasterboard no more than 20-30mm in front of them, otherwise I'm loosing space on the inside.

Previous owner's just had a stud with rockwool which wasn't that bad, so hoping that 100mm of Kingspan will be fine.

There will be a void of about 30-40mm between the Kingspan and Plasterboard for cables so I might stuff some rockwool in there if it'll fit!

This is what I've been ripping out! The plasterboard didnt over the column so a nice cold patch!Image

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What's that depth? About 50mm? Was the room warm enough before or not?

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mick.mh2racing wrote:
What's that depth? About 50mm? Was the room warm enough before or not?

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Previously there was about 50-60mm rockwool.
It wasn't warm like the inside of the house, but I know it has no heating.

It just didn't seem to retain a lot of heat, so 100m of Kingspan should be A LOT better

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Definitely. I replaced my timber conservatory with a times insulated roof hoping it would make it more usable. It didn't work so I've knocked it down and replacing with a timber framed, rendered block extension.

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