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PostPosted: Thu Dec 28, 2017 12:47 pm 
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I want to put up a shelf or two in a bathroom alcove, above the toilet.
Right wall: masonry.
Left wall: plasterboard to shower.
Rear wall: plasterboard to bedroom.

I wonder if I can avoid drilling and using plasterboard fasteners...

How would you rate this idea for stability...

* Affix 3x square dowel rods to the right, left and rear walls using Command Strips or, better, something like Scotch outdoor mounting tape, Gorilla tape.
* Probably tack the strips to the rods using pins/tacks.
* Glue a lightweight shelf on of top of the rods.

... ?

The shelves would be to hold toilet rolls, bathroom bottles etc.


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robertandrews wrote:
Hi,
I want to put up a shelf or two in a bathroom alcove, above the toilet.
Right wall: masonry.
Left wall: plasterboard to shower.
Rear wall: plasterboard to bedroom.

I wonder if I can avoid drilling and using plasterboard fasteners...

How would you rate this idea for stability...

* Affix 3x square dowel rods to the right, left and rear walls using Command Strips or better.
* Probably tack the strips to the rods using pins/tacks.
* Glue a lightweight shelf on of top of the rods.

... ?

The shelves would be to hold toilet rolls, bathroom bottles etc.


I'd use drilling and PB fasteners.

Sorry but I wouldn't rate using any sort of adhesive product for something like this. Despite having read various amazing claims for sticky things of different types I wouldn't trust any of them. Apart from anything else they are only as strong as the surface they are stuck to, or the adhesion of the surface (paint?) to what's below.


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you need to keep in mind all claims are for maximum the average will be about 30% and this will be pulling at right angles to the adhered to surface
any thing in shear [sliding down the wall] will be far less think off separating two very strong magnets
100% mechanical fixings required

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Adhesive products simply don't work in the long run. If your PB is 12mm thick, then an umbrella fastening such as these:

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is probably the best method of fixing your battens to the plasterboard walls. Ideally they need a setting tool to make absolutely certain that they are securely "deployed":

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but I've used them on shop fits for years and they hold up in that environment really well. Even seen them used to install steel rads when the dry liners missed the plywood pattresses out.

The trick to using them is to cut your battens to length, then pilot drill them before offering them up to the wall in position and using a small drill bit to mark the drilling centres on the wall before you drill the plasterboard. This is because the hole in the PB is larger than the pilot hole

The Boss posted a video on YouTube about them a while back:


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