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PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2017 10:18 pm 
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This is more for those that tow for as part of their work but relevant to all that tow
Vosa now have a few more things they can persecute the working motorist with regarding trailer use, these include:-
Breakaway cables (cable to pull brakes on on braked trailers), if this is frayed or kinked or if a covered cable, if cover is split/worn then £60 fine
Brakes not working the trailer put off road
No number plate then £60 fine
Wrong number plate then £60 & 3 points

Be careful out there guys & if your livelihood depends on your licence these points soon add up

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I don't use a trailer but apart from the 'frayed cover' (which I think is a bit nitpicking) I would consider the other 'faults' to be justified offences anyway :dunno:

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If a sleeved or covered cable is damaged it can cause it to fail - the aussies have a warrant of fitness on trailers what I think is a good thing they can be checked and the id checked

Also beware of licencing rules it use to be if you passed your test between 1/1/97 and 19/1/2013 you are restricted to 750kg MAM unles you have a B+E licence

edit. knew I see it somewhere https://www.gov.uk/towing-with-car



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If a sleeved or covered cable is damaged it can cause it to fail - the aussies have a warrant of fitness on trailers what I think is a good thing they can be checked and the id checked

Also beware of licencing rules it use to be if you passed your test between 1/1/97 and 19/1/2013 you are restricted to 750kg MAM unles you have a B+E licence

edit. knew I see it somewhere https://www.gov.uk/towing-with-car

MANY thanks for that link, flash

The idea of having an 'MoT' type test for caravans has been mooted for years, and if/when that comes to fruition a similar one for all trailers will certain arrive at the same time or very soon after.


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When you see some of the junk people drag around, thats a good thing.
People that tow as part of their jobs/businesses mostly seem to have half decent trailers nowadays.
Nothing on the list id say sounded unreasonable... the strength of a frayed or kinked wire rope is seriously compromised by fraying or kinks.

We had a guy bring a trailer into us for a repair last year, wanted some new plates to mount the suspension on if i remember correctly. Towed it to our yard with a scabby old stub axle unit g-clamped onto it :lol: :wtf:
Another one, a home made job, someone had knocked up from some angle iron. Bought it in to have a sheet of ally chequer cut and folded for the floor...cut and folded it, as we dropped it in to position, it wedged itself, so gave it a bit of a kick, it suddenly dropped down into place....because the side of the trailer snapped off :lol: :lol: :lol:

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When you see some of the junk people drag around, thats a good thing.
People that tow as part of their jobs/businesses mostly seem to have half decent trailers nowadays.
Nothing on the list id say sounded unreasonable... the strength of a frayed or kinked wire rope is seriously compromised by fraying or kinks.

We had a guy bring a trailer into us for a repair last year, wanted some new plates to mount the suspension on if i remember correctly. Towed it to our yard with a scabby old stub axle unit g-clamped onto it :lol: :wtf:
Another one, a home made job, someone had knocked up from some angle iron. Bought it in to have a sheet of ally chequer cut and folded for the floor...cut and folded it, as we dropped it in to position, it wedged itself, so gave it a bit of a kick, it suddenly dropped down into place....because the side of the trailer snapped off :lol: :lol: :lol:


A few years back a mate of mine down here had a business servicing and repairing caravans, horse boxes and trailers.
It was an eye opener. Knackered wheel bearings, tyres, brakes completely sh***ed out. Rust! :shock: There was one bloke I remember him saying about who apparently complained bitterly about the bill for basically a complete mechanical rebuild of his horse box, that he was using to transport horses worth many thousands.

Should be some sort of official test. Certainly for anything braked.

Once I saw a large 4 wheel box type trailer become detached from a van on the M5. It was a way off coming towards us in the other carriageway. It overtook the towing van, and hit the Armco in the outside lane which stopped it. No other vehicles involved. The Mway wasn't that busy. but it makes you think about who is towing what.


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There must be 1000's of folk towing illegally everyday anyway. I know a few who didn't realise they couldn't legally tow with the driving license they had. I'm not sure of the exact year(mid 90's?) but if you passed your test after that you have quite a few restrictions that older licence holder don't have.
Towing,driving certain light goods vehicles etc.


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Will you post the URL / Ref. for this, please? ... :thumbleft: :thumbright:


I will see what I can find but we got the info from another department of the company I work for (we are agents for Brian James & Bateson trailers)

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There must be 1000's of folk towing illegally everyday anyway. I know a few who didn't realise they couldn't legally tow with the driving license they had. I'm not sure of the exact year(mid 90's?) but if you passed your test after that you have quite a few restrictions that older licence holder don't have.
Towing,driving certain light goods vehicles etc.


1997.
Being an old fart who passed his test 10 years previously I had what is commonly called "grandfather's rights" which mean I can drive up to 7.5T & also have towing privileges. As I occasionally have to go out in said vehicles for work I hold a Drivers card (Tacho) & a Drivers CPC card.
I got pulled once in the same week I had misplaced my tacho card, I had been told I could get away with a manual printout, this advice turned out to be wrong. As I had been very good with my manual entries on card & was honest about what had happened they cut me a break & gave me a warning but I was confined to the layby until my work confirmed where I was in my non driving duties (we have to fob in & out), it was also a mark against us on the traffic light system they use so we got a bit more attention for a while & I had a "meeting" with my line manager & the transport manager

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1997 is the cut off year, I got my bike licence before that but not my car licence so I have the restrictions on towing - but never felt the need to tow any thing


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Got mine in '76 so have all the benefits that an older licence brings. Shame I never had cause to use them!

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Thanks for the heads up! Got car licence in 2000 so had to sit trailer test in 2014.


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