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PostPosted: Thu Jan 25, 2018 9:07 pm 
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Hi all. Newbie here
My daughter has just had installed new economy 7 heaters on a goverment grant. One heater in the hall looks as normal. The other however has a lcd type display and is connected by a normal plug into the normal 3 pin socket. Is this correct please. Also now new heaters are in thr trips in the old heating consumer unit are all off.? :dunno:


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 25, 2018 9:39 pm 
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I don't understand what you are asking. But it seems your daughter has a new installation of economy7 heaters that have a problem, can you not call who ever installed it back?

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When I had economy seven in my old house years ago they had their own circuit. My main question is "is it common for some economy 7 heaters to have plugs and not on their own circuits nowadays"


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Hello Adie do you know the manufacturer of the heaters by any chance?


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I believe they are "GABARRON" The one in living room and on top stairs have an lcd tpye control with a sun and moon button. The one in the hall has simple imput output dial. Its the big one in living room that has normal plug on


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As someone else has said I would ring and ask for confirmation that the appliances are correctly wired in order to take advantage of economy seven tariffs
My heaters each have their own circuit so I don't know why they have plugged into a 13amp socket especially if there were pre existing circuits in place to the consumer unit
I'd keep a check on the meter to see that the night time low tariff meter reading is moving when the appliances are on
You might check next to the meter to see if there is a telemetry unit (property of the electricity distribution co)which switches the economy 7 to the whole property at the appropriate times


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Adie T wrote:
Hi all. Newbie here
My daughter has just had installed new economy 7 heaters on a goverment grant. One heater in the hall looks as normal. The other however has a lcd type display and is connected by a normal plug into the normal 3 pin socket. Is this correct please. Also now new heaters are in thr trips in the old heating consumer unit are all off.? :dunno:


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I am only guessing a couple of possibilities. Could the heater with the LCD have a built in timer so it can be timed to coincide with the night time tariff? And/or by having it plugged in the normal circuit (and using a plug) it seems like a lower consumption heater, could it be wired in that manner to allow for a boost during the day?


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I see the point about the lcd display but my concern is don't think thewhole house switches over ( not 100% sure) so one heater will be charging at a higher rate and also would it not put load on the ring main?


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My economy 7 and it is old, the whole house switches over when the tariff kicks in. The heaters are on a separate circuit so they do not take electricity during the day or you would need timers for each one. Hot water (it is old stuff) is on a timer that kicks in at night time but can be boosted during the day etc.


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Ive took your advice and rung the company. They were very surprised heating in hall and water not working. Waiting to hear back as manager needs to speak to engineer. Will keep you all posted.


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I rang the main company who dealt with the instalation. Who then contacted the engineer. He has said that the hall heater is on the old circuit so it doesnt charge in tha day. However the nrw large one in the living room can be hard or soft wired into the ring main as it needs to be running all the time because of the built in timer. , booster fan sensor, and digital display. Its load is low so doesnt put to much demand on the ring main. It can also be used as a convector heater. It will only charge during cheap rate times. As for trip switches. It was a case that he and his mate had both thought the other had switched back on. Couldnt apologise enough. So sounds like mystery solved. Thanks all for you help. :huray:


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Hot water? Is it on the cheap rate?


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Yes the hot water has 2 circuits. One for an emersion heater for manual heat up and one to run on cheap rate if switched on.


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