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 Post subject: Re: Mitre Saw for DIY
PostPosted: Thu Feb 01, 2018 6:28 pm 
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I've never owned a stand for my mitre saws, pair of stools and a piece of ply (or an old flush door) for small stuff or a pair of scaffold boards for large timbers.

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Picked up the saw and stand today. Followed the instructions for making sure the saw was all squared up which it already was. I'm not sure what I was expecting when it came to the strand but it seems very well engineered, it's certainly not a light piece of kit.

The only thing I find a bit surprising is the design of the stop block(?) - the block underneath that locks the saw into the preset angles. Once on the stand with the block left attached to the saw it won't really go past 45 degrees as it hits the stand. The instructions indicate that it has to be removed but then you lose the ability to lock it into the preset positions and instead have to rely on the needle indicator. It seems like a poor design, if the block was slightly smaller it wouldn't foul on the stand. Considering both the saw and stand are from the same manufacturer you'd think this would have been addressed. I dunno, maybe it's just me as a newcomer to mitre saws finding fault where other people don't?


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does the stand include length stops :dunno:
these are an amazing help to quick accurate replication off components :huray:

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Yes the stand has adjustable stops. You set the height of the end stops so they either act as rollers or stops. I'm impressed with the stand, it folds up quite compact as well.

http://www.evolutionpowertools.com/uk/group/mitrestand.php

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I just had a thought on the stop block hitting the stand. If I add some washers between the arms and the saw that will raise the saw up a bit and might give it the clearance it needs to be able to leave the stop in place.


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JollyRoger wrote:

http://www.evolutionpowertools.com/uk/g ... estand.php

Every time I try and post a link the forum tells me I can't use URL tags even though the forum has the option (I'm clicking the button). How on earth do you make active hyperlinks?


The forum won't allow "live" links from a new member until they have made 10 posts. It's to help prevent spam.


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In July this year, I bought the Evolution Rage3+S and Mitre Saw Stand with a view to replacing all the skirting boards downstairs as part of a house refurb. I do have to say this made very short work of the job in hand and produced excellent results, though I say it myself.

As I had no prior experience of using an electric mitre saw, I had a few issues with accuracy when relying on the laser light.

I called Evolution Technical who, incidentally, were very approachable and helpful.

They advised me to forget using the laser and instead:

Mark the cut-line on the timber
Move the timber towards the blade
Lock the blade (there is a small lock pin on the side of the motor housing)
Drag the blade across the timber
Move the timber (as required) until the blade drags along the cut-line
Lock the timber down and make the cut

Hopefully, their advice will also help others achieve better results.


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slicker55 wrote:
In July this year, I bought the Evolution Rage3+S and Mitre Saw Stand with a view to replacing all the skirting boards downstairs as part of a house refurb. I do have to say this made very short work of the job in hand and produced excellent results, though I say it myself.

As I had no prior experience of using an electric mitre saw, I had a few issues with accuracy when relying on the laser light.

I called Evolution Technical who, incidentally, were very approachable and helpful.

They advised me to forget using the laser and instead:

Mark the cut-line on the timber
Move the timber towards the blade
Lock the blade (there is a small lock pin on the side of the motor housing)
Drag the blade across the timber
Move the timber (as required) until the blade drags along the cut-line
Lock the timber down and make the cut

Hopefully, their advice will also help others achieve better results.

exactly as i do it i remove half the pencil line as i mark on the measure never really use lights or lazers as being accurate i will work out how close they are as in 0.5/07 off center to the left ect and use as a rough guide if +or - 1 mm is ok will just cut

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its a screwfix special so go to the worst reviews and give them far more weight as they control the feed back and will edit out most off the negative ones


Thanks for that, the bad reviews have put me right off especially as the guard seems to have a habit of shattering dramatically.



I tend to mainly ignore online reviews. It is usually when something goes wrong that people complain, but when something just works, especially at the cheaper end of the market, people don't really bother to go back and give feedback. Also, many large corporations, employ offices full of people in Asia & Russia whose job it is to just rack up likes, or write positive/negative reviews (even as a not so large organisation, you can just 'buy' 10.000 likes for say a fiver). You see the same thing at sites like tripadvisor. Forums like these (or facebook groups or whatever) where you can ask for advice are generally much more accurate.


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As I had no prior experience of using an electric mitre saw, I had a few issues with accuracy when relying on the laser light.

I called Evolution Technical who, incidentally, were very approachable and helpful.

They advised me to forget using the laser....

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exactly as i do it i remove half the pencil line as i mark on the measure never really use lights or lazers as being accurate i will work out how close they are as in 0.5/07 off center to the left ect and use as a rough guide if +or - 1 mm is ok will just cut

For many years my "weapon of choice" for site work was a stonking great Makita LS1013L. Built like a tank, maybe not as good a range as other saws, but it had..... a laser. I pretty soon found out that the laser can only really be set to one side of the blade or the other, which is pretty useless when you are on a job where you are flipping from left to right all the time (e.g. skirting out corridors with loads of pillasters, so loads of double mitre pieces). At which point the laser gets in the way, so you turn it off and maybe make a couple of cuts to get it right. I have moved on from there but I am still wary of the accuracy of single lasers on mitre saws

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Picked up the saw and stand today. Followed the instructions for making sure the saw was all squared up which it already was. I'm not sure what I was expecting when it came to the strand but it seems very well engineered, it's certainly not a light piece of kit.

The only thing I find a bit surprising is the design of the stop block(?) - the block underneath that locks the saw into the preset angles. Once on the stand with the block left attached to the saw it won't really go past 45 degrees as it hits the stand. The instructions indicate that it has to be removed but then you lose the ability to lock it into the preset positions and instead have to rely on the needle indicator. It seems like a poor design, if the block was slightly smaller it wouldn't foul on the stand. Considering both the saw and stand are from the same manufacturer you'd think this would have been addressed. I dunno, maybe it's just me as a newcomer to mitre saws finding fault where other people don't?


Had the same issue with mine and just mounted it on a couple of off cuts of deck board to provide the necessary clearance. Makes it a bit heavier of course.

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