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PostPosted: Sun Aug 12, 2018 7:06 pm 
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Hi All :)

I have been moving a wash hand basin down stairs.

The waster and hot/cold pipes now run to the side of the existing WC.

I have boxed in the pipes and this reduces the space between the Pan and the now boxed bit on the wall.

It strikes me it is a bit close, but wondering if there are any hard and fast rules on this.

The wall on the right (when seated) is now 31cm from the centre of the pan. The left side is the origional 41cm.

Is there a code to be followed for minimum widths?


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Hi All :)

I have been moving a wash hand basin down stairs.

The waster and hot/cold pipes now run to the side of the existing WC.

I have boxed in the pipes and this reduces the space between the Pan and the now boxed bit on the wall.

It strikes me it is a bit close, but wondering if there are any hard and fast rules on this.

The wall on the right (when seated) is now 31cm from the centre of the pan. The left side is the origional 41cm.

Is there a code to be followed for minimum widths?


Position the unplumbed pan and sit down ... if your knees hit off the wall then the pan needs moved!

That's basically how I worked out the position when I installed a new downstairs WC.

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can't remember which part of the building regs but it's 300mm each side and in front of the pan IIRC.

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Eeeek - so the thing origionaly was only 20cm from the edge of the pan, and I have made it worse by narrowing this on one side :cheers:


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just checked. It's 400mm from the center of the pan to any obstruction, that is an absolute minimum though. I think I was quoting doc M which deals with disabled facilities.

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wine~o wrote:
just checked. It's 400mm from the center of the pan to any obstruction, that is an absolute minimum though. I think I was quoting doc M which deals with disabled facilities.

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safara wrote:
Eeeek - so the thing origionaly was only 20cm from the edge of the pan, and I have made it worse by narrowing this on one side :cheers:

Just to add to what wine~o wrote about the 400mm clearance, the building regs also state in regulation 3.b:-
"For work on an existing building that did not comply with the applicable requirements of the Building Regulations:
(i) the work itself must comply with the applicable requirements of the Building Regulations
(ii) the building must be no more unsatisfactory in relation to the requirements than before the work was carried out"

So basically, for a building that doesn't comply (which is a lot of buildings in the UK -- there are many bathrooms in older houses where you couldn't fit a bath, basin and WC in without breaking part M somewhere along the line) you can't make it any worse.

I doubt anyone will ever notice or pick up on it though. 310mm from the pan centre on one side isn't that bad. My loo is the about that too on one side (because that's where the drain was put in in the 1970s when the extension was built).

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