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PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2018 10:06 pm 
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Hi all, ive picked up this amazing 30 yr old oak coffee table but it needs work to get it back to its former glory, there are splits that need to be repaired and stains to be removed, any advice to the restoartion dos and donts would greatly be appreciated. I am a welder fabricator by trade but going into furniture and i love oak and stainless pieces...anyway heres the table in question...I'll get some close ups of the troublesome splits asap


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2018 10:55 pm 
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dont touch it :lol:
fantastic as it is appart from the horrible painted edge :huray:

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Its not painted....its a round edge cut, the outer colour change is natural due to it being the outer edge just undercthe bark layer.

There are splits that need fixing as it is making the section vulnerable I'll post close ups of what i mean. I dont intend to do anything to the wood bar repairs that must be done and the removal of the coffee cup stains.

The legs will go and i will fabricate a base or stand(not quite sure exactly what yet though).


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4eye wrote:

The legs will go and i will fabricate a base or stand(not quite sure exactly what yet though).


Good: the legs just look wrong, completely unbalanced, not quite sure what it needs though.

Some ideas here, also some feature split repairs :- https://www.google.co.uk/search?biw=128 ... wsZXBQzPRQ

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hows about worktop wax sticks
i have the rutlands big box and it works well
https://www.rutlands.co.uk/sp+workshop- ... +wax%20kit
you can get individual sticks elswhere

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Cool thanks guys....ive been looking into maybe apoxy for the deep crack and holes but again unsure if to leave some for character...as for the problem split i may glue it but bow tie the underside?

This is all new to me so going to take time to reserch gain more opinions and advice and try to do this right.

Here is my last coffee table i made out of stainless and a cut of from my kitchen work tops.


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 11:25 am 
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as an aside where its stored and used will effect how it reacts as a single slice with no frame or cross grain to give stability :dunno:

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In answer to your original question. It depends how it is finished to remove (some of) the finish e.g. to get rid of the round mark. If it is done with wax and sanding sealer (shellac) underneath it is a matter of elbow grease. If it has been varnished/lacquered I do not have a clue (wood turners I think like lacquer/hard crust ???? oils and that is where it may be coming from). You don't want to start scraping stuff as you will get in trouble when it comes to the hollows.

I agree with Ayjay the legs look wrong. What may work nicely with it esp. as you are into metal, would be round stainless tube (scaffolding tube size?) curved and bend and what you like ... asymmetrical curved design.


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big-all wrote:
as an aside where its stored and used will effect how it reacts as a single slice with no frame or cross grain to give stability :dunno:


It had had no frame and is 30 years old....its currently dry stored and upto about 2 months ago it was an old ladies coffee table for those 30 years....she took a fall over it and broke her hip (she is fine now) hense the sale to me.

There will be a frame support of some fashion when i am finished :thumbright:


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Timber like that is always going to move and split. AFAIK the best way to stabilise a split is to use a butterfly joiner across the split to tie the two halves together. It requires a router and chisels to do the cut-out and a bandsaw or scroll saw (or possibly an inverted jigsaw with home-made roller guides for the blade) to cut the butterfly pieces.

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I'd agree with J & K, it's the nature of a piece of timber like this to have splits and to move. There's something to be said for leaving them alone as long as they're not too massive and ugly. It'll still move with the moisture in the environment, no matter how well dried it is, so any frame will have to either be held on with buttons, or have slotted screw holes to allow movement across the grain.
Depending on what you're making the under frame and legs from, I'd go for a slim light construction. If you make it too heavy you're in danger of having a nice frame with a piece of wood on top, rather than a nice piece of wood as a table, if you see what I mean.
I'd always sketch it anyway myself. Think how it's going to look when people are standing in the room, and sat low.


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Dave54 wrote:
I'd agree with J & K, it's the nature of a piece of timber like this to have splits and to move. There's something to be said for leaving them alone as long as they're not too massive and ugly. It'll still move with the moisture in the environment, no matter how well dried it is, so any frame will have to either be held on with buttons, or have slotted screw holes to allow movement across the grain.
Depending on what you're making the under frame and legs from, I'd go for a slim light construction. If you make it too heavy you're in danger of having a nice frame with a piece of wood on top, rather than a nice piece of wood as a table, if you see what I mean.
I'd always sketch it anyway myself. Think how it's going to look when people are standing in the room, and sat low.

Sound advice...I have been thinking this also...im goin to play with some wire to design the base.

Heare are the marks dings and cracks...


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to be honest the cracks will tend not to be structural but fully cosmetic
they are fully constant with how thick oak reacts and moves
if you manage to remove those splits some others will or may appear near by :lol:

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My thoughts are the space in a room it will take. It is so big it will visually impact space and dominate a room unless you have a wide open living space where this a table will not impede movement. I can understand when you have a piece of wood like this you feel you have to do something with it. Furniture styles have become very contemporary in design over the last decade, all dark furniture has largely gone now and the image this conveys belongs to that of 20 years ago.

Probably not the view of many on here but I would chainsaw it.

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we are all different dwd :lol:
i have a tee shirt saying back to the 80s :thumbright:
my house decore is fairly neutral and bright but fairly untouched since you have guessed it for the last 25 years
i would love that bit off oak but would not expect any protection or treatment to improve the natural carricter off the timber just the continued use
i would off course choose a more fluid more natural leg/support solution than at present :huray: :huray:

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