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PostPosted: Thu Sep 21, 2017 8:05 pm 
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Had the kitchen rewired, we have 4 light pendants wired to operate from one switch, all works fine, however the downstairs toilet light, next room on from the kitchen will only work when the kitchen lights are switched on, so we can't use the light in the downstairs toilet without having the kitchen lights on. Problem is the sparky is away for 2 weeks and I would like to get it sorted asap, it's driving me crazy ::b, Thanks for any help


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Are you sure the guy you employed is actually a sparks ?

sounds like a missing neutral.

pics of any Jb's switches and connections at light fittings. (TBH it could take more than 2 weeks to diagnose the issue on a forum )

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I'm sure he is, I've had a look at the pendant in the down stairs toilet and can see 2 wires. Everything is still open so I can see the switch wire, neutral is attached to line, live wire is in loop and neutral is in neutral. The second wire which comes from the last kitchen pendant is wired live in loop, neutral is in neutral and earth is wired into earth, hope it makes sense


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No good without pics or a sketch really.
Could be the toilet light wired to the switched live for the kitchen lights rather than the permanent live feed, as well as what wine~o says.


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I think it would be more informative if you can show the first kitchen light ie the one where all the connections are (maybe a junction box?).


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Its not missing neutral, its the live (for the toilet light) as Dave54 says is connected to the switch live (For the kitchen lights) not the permanent live.

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Either the original kitchen light has been connected wrongly or the kitchen switch. The kitchen light in your diagram is one of four but it is probably not the first or original kitchen lighting point. There could be a junction box, possibly at the original lighting point, it's hard to say with the info you supplied.



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Yup. He's daisy chained all the lights in the kitchen then to the switch for the bathroom and onto the bathroom light so no perm live in bathroom

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Assuming he's taken the bathroom supply from the light in the kitchen which is on the ring there would be a perm live there he should have gone to instead of switched live. My guess as he hasn't extended the ring to the bathroom which he should have done, is that he may well have either a) put the bathroom live in the wrong terminal or b) taken the bathroom supply from closest light to bathroom which has no perm live. Either way dodgy skimping on cabling and poor workmanship imo

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