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Hi,

New to the forum. Hopefully I can get some advise...

I bought a house and after a few months noticed the back wall in the conservatory was damp.

I noticed the lead which ran horizontal with the roof had clear cracks. Also the vertical strips of lead and the horizontal lead strips had all had sealant applied to the edges rather than just dressed.

So I had a roofer in who changed the lead which ran horizontal on the roof and who dressed the vertical lead strips after pealing up to put in the horizontal lead strips.

After the first rainfall I noticed the leaking is still there - I've attached a picture of the leak.

So the roofer came back who lifted the lead at the central point (at the ridge of the conservatory) and mentioned there was no 'ledge' and applied sealant. However it is still leaking exactly the same.

Any advise? Is the lead leaking, or a part of the conservatory...?

From a lay persons view it's odd how the leak starts halfway down the wall on both sides...

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 24, 2017 9:16 pm 
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the trouble you have is the leak could any where it could be above the upstairs window or any where above where it appears and runs down surfaces until directed to where you see it :dunno:

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Find another roofer he does not seem competent

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that lead work doesnt look the best. got any better pics of it?


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multiman wrote:
Find another roofer he does not seem competent


If all that was asked was "change the lead flashing" (so he did) does that make him a bad roofer?



I agree with big-all

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the trouble you have is the leak could any where it could be above the upstairs window or any where above where it appears and runs down surfaces until directed to where you see it


A leak like that is not easy to find on a dry day. We had a leak in our roof, It took me quite a few attempts to find where it was actually coming in, where it dripped from was easy, but finding out how it was getting in.......

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Yes in my opinion a roofer should check his work if it was a difficult leak why not use a hose pipe to trace it I carry out property maintenance and my roofer would not leave until I am happy work is complete and tested

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That doesn't look like lead to me,, more like flash band.

The pictures need to be a bit more clearer and taken in the light.

Can you peel the material away from the wall, as it doesn't look like its chased into the wall, as you would expect a lead flashing.

Also the wall looks rendered, therefore it would have been straight cut into a chase, and not a mock up lead flashing.

Stepped flashing only done on brick work.

More than likely need all coming out, fit new lead flashing chased into wall, sealed with lead mate and dressed over at least 6inche onto roof.

Why the leaks only showing half way down is probably because the window cill is giving a bit of protection,



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Thanks for all the responses so far. When the roofer came I showed him the leak on the wall and pointed out the holes in the lead which have now been replaced, but left it to him to view and give me a POA.

Got some more pictures here - be great to hear your thoughts:

The only thing I would say is since the lead flashing has been replaced the leak has probably gotten worse. As mentioned before, all the lead previously had sealant where they connected.


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Find a good roofer I suggest using this website
https://www.fmb.org.uk/

I still stand my opinion that roofer is not competent enough have used many roofers and most have been useless in not sure where you are located but if you put postcode on website you can search around.
Obviously before calling anyone explain issue get a price and make sure leak is fixed before payment hate people who go round charging money and don't have a clue.

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I'm no roofer ... however whilst the actual leadwork doesn't look too bad it looks like some-one has cut it back and applied "flashband" as a replacement. As per Cotswolds post... wants redoing by someone who knows they're elbow from their a-r-s-e

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ive only put lead work onto one conservatory.

i made up sections of step flashings about a meter long as an example. it was about a year ago ish.... the section of conservatory roof that attaches to the wall had a chanel which i dropped the lead into.

the flashings here have what looks like vertical individual sections. in my experience that is incorrect.

certainly on this application anyway. it looks as if the water could be getting in and past the bits at the bottom that appear to be holding the next piece of lead down.

im no lead work expert or anything. but none of my lead work has ever leaked so far as i know.

and flash band is bloody rubbish :cussing: :cussing:



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some pics of lead flashings and how they are normally made.

it may be a bit more difficult on your roof with it being next to a rendered wall
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=lead+ ... 40&bih=658


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Agreed lead flashing is no substitute to lead and asphalt.

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edited as i forgot to paste the link to pics of step flashings.

dont quite know what multi is on about above lead and asphalt....

lead flashings are made up only of lead. some flashings have tin or aluminium soakers but usually that is for a slated roof.

it is actually possible to buy pvc flashings now if you look on my link. i didnt know this and it may be a viable alternative for your conservatory.



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What I meant is that flashing tape while flexible and useful especially for emergency repairs, it does not compare to durability of lead or asphalt especially if not sealed over with a roofing paint.

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