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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2018 7:57 am 
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Hi guys first post so go easy!!!
I'm looking at painting my kitchen cabinets as I've had a quote to have it done and it's astronomical
I've painted various bits of furniture in the past with great results but a kitchen is a big job so I'm looking for some advice. After doing a bit of research I think I have a plan. The units are plastic coated mdf I think
I have a few ideas
Clean and degrese all surfaces sugar soap?
Lightly sand 600?
2 coats of zinsser bullseye or bin?
2 topcoats of eggshell but which one?
Little green suggests bin bullseye then intelligent primer then intelligent eggshell to many coats maybe?
I've also looked at tikkurila
2 coats otex akva
2 coats helmi satin or matte
Was going to use a roller then lay off with a brush using a microfiber roller and a synthetic brush What brush and roller are best?
Any advice would be much appreciated
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You have to be careful painting foil covered doors as it is easy to cause delamination in parts with resultant bubbles showing under the foil. The main thing is a thorough degrease, I use meths, and when you take off the door handles pack the holes well as you do not want anything creeping in and lifting the foil. I would BIN and two top coats of acrylic. I think the water based goes off quick and lays on the primer and this is better in this situation. There are many different ways to do this and I would have a practice on a less obvious drawer front or door.

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As an experiment I had some veneer cupboard doors kicking around (New), I also had some Crown Trade Scrubbable Matt which produces quite a nice sheen level and sticks rather well.
So I rubbed down using 320 grit, wiped off and sprayed them with my Graco easymax.
Came up an absolute treat.

Obviously adhesion was on my mind so I left it for a few weeks and hung it up in place of another.

It's been up there a while got grubby and wiped off perfect, no chips and I cannot scratch it for toffee.

There's many ways to do things, I wouldn't do it for a customer but I'd be happy to do it in my home. Saying that I'd use Stix and BM Advance tbh as it sprays so well and Stix is lovely to sand down, I'd say it sticks better than BIN.

Personally I can't see the point of 2 BIN's, it's an adhesion primer and the first coat does that job sufficiently.


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Just looked at BM it's the only one that says it's sutable for thermofoil mdf
As stated in the specs
Wood, MDF & Thermofoil
Primer: 1 coat Advance® Waterborne Interior Alkyd Primer (790)
Finish: 1 or more coats of Advance® Waterborne Interior Alkyd Satin (792)
So to keep it simple I might go with it that
stix or advance primer ? followed by advance satin
Would it be ok to apply with a roller then lay off with a brush ?


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Stix is better for solid surfaces and High hide for flexible so I'd go Stix.

Roller and laying off - perfect. (Actually doesn't need much laying off)


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That settles it then just need to decide on a colour but that's down to the wife lol !! gonna go for a micro fibre roller and synthetic brush BM do both any suggestions on anything better than BM ? Hamilton or blaze etc
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Fossa viper trim straight cut, nothing beats it. They do rollers too which are good but need to be used in emulsion a few times and washed to shed little fibres.


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That settles it then just need to decide on a colour but that's down to the wife lol !! gonna go for a micro fibre roller and synthetic brush BM do both any suggestions on anything better than BM ? Hamilton or blaze etc
Cheers
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On the roller sleeve, wash it well a couple of times and if you can find a clean surface spin it to remove the water. When new they put out so much fluff :-(


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Cheers guys you've been a great help thers to many products out there now to choose from. just priced it all up and with paint brushes etc it's come in it at around £200 which the company I got a quote from wanted just for having white or cream !!! I'll post some pics before and after but it might be a month or two as I've got a holiday to go on and a need to sort some new worktops too
Thanks again for all your advice
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We have a water based adhesion primer that we developed specifically for painting cabinetry - if anyone would like a free sample just DM me. It's available from mypaintbrush.com

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Wouldn't mind trying that :thumbleft:

Can you use it with oil top coats?

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