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PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2018 1:33 am 
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OK not strictly electric, but at my home address at the moment I don't have an aerial, just two quad LNB satellite dishes, I also have 6 satellite set top boxes, one being a Sky+ HD and another Free-to-air HD.

So in most rooms I have a TV with a satellite box connected. Now a few years ago there were some channels which one needs to pay for with satellite, but were free with terrestrial, however as far as I can see these are now either also free with satellite or have been removed from Freeview, like UK Gold for example.

However when one tries to find out, it seems web sites are out of date, or fail to say things like Freeview version stops at 6:00 pm. If I did fit an aerial it would be aimed at Moel-y-parc, I have line of sight about 5 miles away, not quite good enough for indoor aerial, but would only need a small outdoor at about 9 foot off the ground. But unless there are extra programs available then hardly seems worth the effort of buy an aerial, fitting it, and running cable.

So question is if there is any advantage with Freeview over Satellite free-to-air?


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Advantage?

It doesn't boil down to 'advantage' imho. Channel choice is one thing but where we are we have no choice but to receive via satellite as terrestrial TV isn't an option.

You sound a bit desperate for entertainment if your 'concern' is the lack of 'one' particular channel given the 6 receivers you have...... plus the internet....

Begs the answer...... get a life!

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gold has never been available on freeveiw as far as i know
dont recognize channel 77but the rest are there :dunno:
https://www.radioandtelly.co.uk/freeviewchannels.html
cant speak for any channel above 84 as i never go there :dunno:

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I don't have a TV at home. However my holiday apartment has one and has freeview and freesat. I cannot find much difference between the two other than I can get Vintage TV on the freesat box but not on the freeview TV (it only a HD ready not an HD TV).


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There's not much between them these days, you get the on demand stuff with a Freeview box tho, The satellite FTA channels on astra 28.2º are ok but if you want more a 2nd offset lnb on hotbird 13 (eutelsat) will give you more choice if you boxes support diseqc switching

Not sure whats on the old astra 19.2 these days

edit. just double checked it GOLD has always been a subscription only channel (was part of topup tv aka itv digital back in the day)


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UK Gold "The channel was removed from Freeview in 2013, along with Home as part of the closure of Top Up TV and was replaced with Drama in July 2013. However, Home relaunched on the platform in March 2016." from Wikipedia. There was quite a few programs on Freeview which were not free on satellite, however over the years it seems they have also become free on satellite.

It does seem there is no point in fitting an aerial, can't see any channels on the Freeview list which I have not seen on my satellite boxes, however it seems I need to rescan with some boxes as missing "Yesterday" on some boxes.

I find the old (no card inserted) Sky boxes don't show as many programs as the free-to-air boxes, unfortunately I did not realise the difference between free-to-air and Freesat so on the non Sky boxes the electronic program guide is rather poor, at mothers house I have flicked to Freeview to find out what's on, but hardly worth putting up an aerial and routing cable just for the guide.


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old sky boxes arn't great for fta, the guide on the humax boxes works very well you can pick up a Humax Foxsat HD boxes used on ebay for under £15

as I said above if you have big enough dish you can add a lnb, fit a diseqc switch out side near the dish then just a simple bit of wiring - if your not in a fringe area a zone 1 sky dish is all you need

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Only advantage I know of is that you can get channel 4 in HD on Freeview which you can't on Freesat. (since a month or three ago) It would seem that because Freesat was later to the market some channels are no longer investing in Freesat as the advertising revenue isn't so good.

I've got both Freeview and Freesat and 99.9% of the time watch Freeview.

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