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I have a door lock that had its barrel's key lost before i moved in. Today i wanted to get that fixed and bought a new barrel. Little did i know that without lost key, i cannot remove old barrel (or can i?):

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What can be done? Spent almost $10 for barrel with 3 keys but heard that locksmith can make a new key specific to old barrel who's on-site service fee can be high. I also heard that old barrel can be lock picked.

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google bump key :wink:

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root wrote:
google bump key :wink:



But Google is a publicly traded company. I didn't know they make bump keys :dunno:

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http://lmgtfy.com/?q=bump+key

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wine~o I was just kidding, sorry :thumbright: . Sorry for being off topic, but does anybody notice how new words and terms get invented as time goes on? For example instead of saying "send the message to my mobile phone" we say "SMS me" or instead of saying "search for that on Google" we say "google that" (just like root did).

Anyhow, how is it possible to recreate new key following old key's format? Initially i thought it must be created from melted material in the format of old key, but later i saw that all that needs to be done is work with file.

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That is interesting about the words and how google has become a self proclaimed noun and a community pronounced verb
this is the miricale of the english language i guess :-)

you will probably never be able to recreate your old key... you will either need to break into your own door or break the barrell off.

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root wrote:
That is interesting about the words and how google has become a self proclaimed noun and a community pronounced verb
this is the miricale of the english language i guess :-)


Not only that, many english words come to russian vocabulary and pronounced similarly but with russian accent of course. Words like translation, emancipation, immigration/migration, isolation, splitter, triangulation, revolution etc. and some of mentioned already were existing.

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you will probably never be able to recreate your old key... you will either need to break into your own door or break the barrell off.


Maybe locksmith will? I don't need to break my door since it is not jammed/locked that does not allow entry but i am not sure about breaking...

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Let me start by saying i'm no locksmith.

That being said, i'd try firstly snapping the cylinder.

The last method shown does some damage to the door, but the first two seem to be only attacking the cylinder. If you remove the handles on both sides, and get a pair of grips on each end, I think you'll be able to do it without damage to the lock.


Or maybe drilling out the cylinder so that you can just turn it with a screwdriver.

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jg wrote:
The last method shown does some damage to the door, but the first two seem to be only attacking the cylinder.



Do you know if bump key gets stuck in lock after using it?

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Nope, a bumpe key is non destructive.
It's really a way of picking a lock without any skill.

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Okay so what i need is to get ready bumb key from local locksmith? Or i can just buy a sample and work on it with file? Well i am not a locksmith so i don't know how it is done, but my neighbour knows how to install/change locks so maybe i should delegate such task to him? I know that it is best to get locksmith to do this, but is there a chance neighbour can spoil everything to the worst state?

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If you don't need the cylinder that's in there, i'd try snapping it.
A bump key is probably not something your locksmith would be happy to sell.

Once you've removed the cylinder it's a 2 min job to fit the new one.

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jg wrote:
If you don't need the cylinder that's in there, i'd try snapping it.
A bump key is probably not something your locksmith would be happy to sell.

Once you've removed the cylinder it's a 2 min job to fit the new one.



Well i heard that key can be recreated for cylinder but on this forum one member said that it would be nearly impossible to do and did not explain why. But if this will require a lot of time, practice and paid specialist, then i guess i can throw cylinder in a trash can and replace with new one?

Would that be more logical?

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yes. snap it and then replace. easy. and cheaper. try a google search for euro cylinder



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