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PostPosted: Sun May 27, 2018 2:09 pm 
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Dear All,

I have a light fitting that I am replacing with two spotlights (doing it whilst I take down the ceiling). What is the best way to do this? Is it to install one and add the other as a series like a spur or do I get a junction box, split the original cable into two and install the lights this way?

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PostPosted: Sun May 27, 2018 3:03 pm 
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Which ever is easier.

Since some times there is not enough room in a light fitting for two cables.

What ever you decide, don't use a junction box above a ceiling, use wago connectors

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Thank you very much. I’ve some choxbox in the shed. Would they do the job rather than wagos?


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https://www.screwfix.com/p/chocbox/54936?tc=CA6&ds_kid=92700019905977878&ds_rl=1248181&ds_rl=1245250&ds_rl=1249481&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI37yssYmm2wIV4b_tCh1eXwBPEAQYASABEgI8oPD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds&dclid=CKPE-7SJptsCFa8B0wodbP0Cww

These ones. I was hoping to use them to make sage an old extractor fan switch as well. What they be suitable?

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Not really.

Any junction has to be accessible, anything "tucked away" behind a light (or worse still, in the middle of a cable run) is not allowed unless it is "maintenance free" which wagos are

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Are they spotlights or downlights?

Most I've seen have a small lighting junction box in the ceiling void and enough cable to bring them out of the hole for access to rewire in the event of an issue, downlight removed obviously

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Thank you both for your advice.

They are spotlights (I think).

I took the old ceiling down today. There are three neutral, three live and three earth in the old ceiling rose. Using what you guys have said, I’ll use three wagos and run 2 cord flex into the live and neutral wagos, use this to feed the first light and spur the second light from the first.

Please let me know if I am about to electrocute myself,

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AndyBaldock wrote:
There are three neutral, three live and three earth in the old ceiling rose. Using what you guys have said, I’ll use three wagos and run 2 cord flex into the live and neutral wagos, use this to feed the first light and spur the second light from the first.

Please let me know if I am about to electrocute myself,

Andy


You won't electrocute yourself but you might get a very loud "bang"

3 lives need connecting together in a wago. these are your live loop and do not connect to the light fitting.

then there are 2 neutrals, (yes 2, not 3) these are connected into another wago together with the neutral core to your new light/s.

(If you look at your ceiling rose you'll see that the 2 neutrals go one side of the 3 live wires and one wire (same colour as the neutrals) goes to the other side. This is your "switched live" mark it before removing any other wiring.

Your "switched live" wants connecting together with the live core to your new lights.

so 4 wago connectors required. live loop. neutrals. earths. switched live. Follow? if not ask.

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Wine-O, I wished I’d read this before starting. You were - of course - 100% accurate. It wasn’t too big a bang though :help:

In other news, I wish I’d never used flex. The light system kept breaking the connection no matter how much I twisted the ends. After two hours of frustration I tried some 1.5mm cable and it gripped first time.

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AndyBaldock wrote:
Wine-O, I wished I’d read this before starting. You were - of course - 100% accurate. It wasn’t too big a bang though :help:

In other news, I wish I’d never used flex. The light system kept breaking the connection no matter how much I twisted the ends. After two hours of frustration I tried some 1.5mm cable and it gripped first time.

Thanks Wine O.



Ahh sorry I wasn't around much over the weekend ... bus keeping the Mrs. happy :help:

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