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PostPosted: Mon Jul 02, 2018 11:23 am 
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Hi Folks

I can't get into my downstairs toilet. When the handle is depressed the catch doesn't move far enough across to allow the door to open. Having removed the screws, the handle doesn't want to pull off even with reasonable force. Is there a knack to handles with a built-in thumb lock, or something I may be missing?

I don't have enough room to push anything against the catch and 'walk' it across the last few mm. My last resort will be to cut through the latch. Even that's not straightforward since there's little room for the blade to be inserted beyond the catch, so it would be difficult to cut through the far side.

Any suggestions welcome.


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The tube latch is knackered, cheap enough at Screwfix. The problem is the bottom privacy turning handle is held on by a grub screw on the inside. Sometimes you can lever it out if the grub screw is not too tight. If you can get that out then an overturn on the handle with the lock plate unscrewed will give enough movement to open.

If that fails when you turn the main handle it does not give enough clearance of the latch but it will pull it a certain way back. Try a trusty coat hanger wire and bend the end into a right angle hook. As you depress the handle jiggle the catch in the door crack and you might be able to spring it by pulling against the latch cam face.

Try the privacy bolt first :thumbright:

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 02, 2018 11:56 am 
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stonky wrote:
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I don't have enough room to push anything against the catch and 'walk' it across the last few mm.
Any suggestions welcome.


Two slim bladed dinner knives usually works for me. Insert one angled from r to l, lever the latch across a touch to the right and then insert the second knife to the left of the first knife and repeat as often as necessary, you need to keep pressure on the rh knife to stop the latch slipping back whilst the lh knife is inserted.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 02, 2018 11:59 am 
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@dewaltdisney

Many thanks. I'll give that a more concerted yank to start with.

Stupidly, I didn't think to look at one of the other locks in the house which would have revealed the grub screw fixing on t'inside.


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@ayjay

Yeah that's the 'stepping' technique I wanted to try, but hadn't thought of using dinner knives ... good suggestion.


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Right.

The bolt was on solid and not going to move.

I screwed the door plate back on for stability, than I tried a couple of knives to walk the latch across, but there wasn't enough purchase on the metal. So I used the same principle, but I first used a 1.5mm bit to break the surface before I walked the latch across each time. I used a scribe and a steak knife point as the two 'walkers' in the end!

One of the two wings on the part that accepts the spindle had broken off so the latch wouldn't fully retract. If it wasn't going to be time-consuming I'd fabricate another one; but looks like it may well be Screwfix for the whole thing.

Thanks DWD and ayjay for your help.


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Ahhh been busy today and didn't see this.

@OP, well done for getting it sorted and be thankful that you weren't locked inside the loo. :hiding:

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be thankful that you weren't locked inside the loo.


You'd think someone would have written a song about that by now. :mrgreen:

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Had a similar problem with our ensuite, unfortunately my wife was stuck in there at the time.


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Yeah, being locked in would have been a bummer. Shouts of "help" as I got stuck in the tiny square window.

Think I'll fit a fireman's axe; any excuse for a new tool ;)


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