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I see hybrids as a total waste of time. They discolour like oil so unless smell is an issue you may as well just use oil. They only seem to be good for making the transistion from oil to fully water based.
Depends where you're using them. Yeah I've had hybrids very slightly discolour in hallways with little light, but not as badly as some oils do, and I've never had a customer comment on the yellowing.

Only one customer commented on the sheen levels when I used isolac gloss on a job this summer, as it didn't have the shine of the johnstones aqua I'd used previously.

These waterborne paints are still and will always be developing and improving so will get there and they're not far off.



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Wouldn't have used the Aqua Advance for outside. Unless a waterbased product specifically says external use, you're risking it IMO.

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Wouldn't have used the Aqua Advance for outside. Unless a waterbased product specifically says external use, you're risking it IMO.
I'm same with paints. I always prefer to use a system that's specifically for use either internally or externally, but not both.

The best extremal paints aren't suitable for inside work as a rule.

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I see hybrids as a total waste of time. They discolour like oil so unless smell is an issue you may as well just use oil.


That's partly true, but much slower.

Only 1 hybrid I've used, Jotun Jotalak did that. It was quite alarming, but if you read the review, it's drying times (and oil content) were on a par with oil. It was the one hybrid that was trying too hard to be like oil. I think it's discontinued now.

The first generation of Johnstones Aqua did that on me a couple of times, but not so aggressively. Don't hear about it much these days, so it must be fixed.

Now fast forward 5 or 6 years to offerings such as Dulux QD gloss. I've seen that in situ on two separate jobs I did (both around the 2 year mark now) and they are still perfectly white. These paints do yellow, but nowhere near as fast as their oil counterparts.

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Lots of regular posters that no longer contribute to the forum, which is sad


Agreed. It's still active, but it was buzzing for a while then.

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Taken on my phone, so maybe not the best quality. All have yellowed to varying degrees, but Bedec has fared best. There is a newish band of white along the borrow third of each area for comparison


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