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PostPosted: Wed Apr 29, 2015 6:56 pm 
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I've been sorting out this driveway, which has been sinking.........
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Found it had been laid on 2 inches of building sand - and that was all! No sub-base at all. :shock:
Amazing that it had lasted as long as it has - the previous tenant only had a little hatchback, but the new owner has a Merc Sprinter van which has made it groan a bit!
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The modern equivalent of "Can I tarmac your drive for you sir"?


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Hi,

Are you redoing the lot Chappy? Find out who the cowboys were and then follow them round picking up lots of work? :thumbleft:

Our short driveway is concrete and in need of replacing but it will be replaced with new concrete; not a job I'm looking forward to. :cb

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After the sub base is down what thickness of compacted sand would you normally have to lay the blocks on chappy?


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Allow 100mm for the block and the sand. Getting the levels spot on with the compacted sub-base is therefore critical.
Any more than 50mm thickness of compacted sand increases the likelihood of movement and subsequent sinking.

Unfortunately I'm only patching up the worst bits of this driveway. I have shown the owner (who lives 100 miles away) what I have found and advised that it all needs to come up and be redone properly, and the tenant needs to keep his jumbo Sprinter van (which is full of kit, so probably 3.5 tonne) off it.
The owner is looking to recoup the costs of the damage from her tenant, but thats an ongoing thing which doesn't involve me.
This is how it looks now, but I could well be doing more in the future.
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Recoup the costs?? I'd tell them to do one unless the rental agreement specified what couldn't be parked on a faulty drive.

There are a hundred examples of where dodgy work could have been done, it fail and the tennant lands the blame........wow.

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I know, I know! :lol:
I'm keeping out of it. But if I had a big van which was clearly ripping up a driveway not belonging to me, I would probably not just keep driving on it regardless - the least I would do is inform my landlord as soon as I saw a problem.


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Nice job that Chappy.
I wonder about the van on the premises. I think most tenancy agreements forbid "commercial activity". A van full of kit would most likely be just that I'd have thought?


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I'd argue parking your van at home isn't commercial activity all the way to the court!

My drive (for a car or two) is more than capable of having a van parked on it. Had an 8cu skip on it loaded so heavily that the truck need all 4 pins down to get it. Not a block did wiggle.

The drive is botched.

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our drive way has a lwb transit parked on it like. we laid the drive. more likely than not apart from the dolly base the lad laying it may have mixed some cement into the sharp sand screed. seems to work canny well like. just something like a 6-1 mix or maybe an 8 - 1


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I'd argue parking your van at home isn't commercial activity all the way to the court!

My drive (for a car or two) is more than capable of having a van parked on it. Had an 8cu skip on it loaded so heavily that the truck need all 4 pins down to get it. Not a block did wiggle.

The drive is botched.


Without wanting to get into a pointless "It is! It isn't!" type argument, I wonder what a court would say about parking a heavy van full of kit used for a business on a drive which has presumably been previously used for parking cars with no problems. If it's the guy's kit he uses for weekends motorbike racing or something that's different.
On the other hand, I'd agree that it shouldn't break up like that.


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Fair enough - it's one of those things that I'd argue the toss over.

My drive was done for cars, but it's certainly been done to a standard where I'd have qualms over parking a van - work or otherwise. The guy asked me what was going on it and it was built to the correct standard.

The walking path was still built well, but clearly not to take a van with kit.

If you went to a supermarket in a van to buy dinner and your van sank into the paving and they said pay or we'll sue, would that be OK too? You're not working, but in a work van. They could argue that the car park hasn't been made for heavy vans. It's their car park, so they can do what they want.

Chappy already said it's not built to standard. I'm sure the tenant could just ring up a number of people and get a report to it's quality - how many do you think would say "sure, that's how I'd do it". Unless I'm totally wrong and Chappy is just going to put the sand back and the owner parks on the road????

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Thats the benefit of renting I suppose.
I can only advise both parties that the van is too heavy for such a poor drive, and have done so. My new bit has six inches of compacted stone under it, and I'll warrant that, but the rest will go too in time.
Maybe the owner is planning to sell soon? I dunno.


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