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PostPosted: Wed Dec 27, 2017 4:20 pm 
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OnlyMe wrote:
Does the Honeywell alarm monitor the wireless sensors batteries?


Yes, yes it does.

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Thanks for the photo - I haven't bought one yet so it's very useful to see the inside. It looks straightforward to cut one of the reed switch leads and run out a couple of wires to reed switches on other casements in the same window. Alternatively, the internal reed switch could be removed altogether and the box put somewhere in a corner and just used as a transmitter with all reed switches external (and maybe hidden).
Doing this doesn't defeat the aim because it's still wireless to the window, and the wires around a window could be thin enamelled wire that can be lost in a corner. We have a large number of windows, some of which have 5 opening casements, so to add one device per casement would be ridiculously expensive.

One aspect that I haven't tested yet is how well reed switches work on steel Crittall windows - what's the experience of those here?


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One aspect that I haven't tested yet is how well reed switches work on steel Crittall windows - what's the experience of those here?



I do not know of the window you speak of, but yes contacts do work on steel doors............provided you have a big enough magnet. (I am being serious, if the magnet is too small it will not work and large contacts are available)

Overall, I would say you are on a hiding to nothing if you go ahead with your idea, enamelled wires are small they also break easily and need to be secured, the size of the contacts you would need (They are common, but big to cope with the metal) would not only look ugly they can easily be defeated since they would be so visible, then there is the age old problem (It applies to any windows with contacts) of leaving one ajar (it will look shut, the alarm will indicate its shut but...........) and the alarm activates. You would be better off with a P.I.R in the corner of the room, less hassle, looks better, more reliable.

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Thanks again for the info. I'll play around with reeds and magnets and, if I can't find anything that works and looks OK, I may try and do something with a microswitch in a small potting enclosure - that shouldn't be too hard on a steel window.


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Thanks again for the info. I'll play around with reeds and magnets and, if I can't find anything that works and looks OK, I may try and do something with a microswitch in a small potting enclosure - that shouldn't be too hard on a steel window.


I sincerely wish you luck. You are wasting your time, but I really do wish you luck.

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Along similar lines, I am looking at installing the wireless Honeywell HS321S in my detached garage. I do have an old wired alarm system that has worked well for many years, but felt that having a new wired system would be more expensive. I did get my house alarm people to quote replacement, but they wanted about £400, which is, I suppose, realistic with the work and profit needed.
The Honeywell systems seem to have good reviews, despite what earlier posts have commented on, but this new wireless system will also be much handier, as the old system is key operated and the Honeywell by remote, so easier with the new automatic door openers being fitted next week. Drive into the drive, open doors from in the cars and could then switch on BOTH alarms at night as no need to remove that old system.


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After working fitting alarms in BT buildings my son started working for a local alarm company, there is a problem fitting alarms in that to be monitored it has to be installed by a company who has the accreditation, so although my son has fitted 100's of monitored alarms, his own house is not monitored as not fitted by a company but by him.

Garage broken into and the guy was caught, however nothing returned, the response needs to be quick to catch in the act, and once the have gone getting stuff back is unlikely even when caught.

So the question is do you want monitored in which case you can't install anything yourself, or unmonitored in which case unlikely it will help. Once the intruder is in the house, and an alarm has sounded, he will be out again in around 15 minutes, which in the main is less time than it takes to return home, so it does not help.

Just fit a new bell box so it looks if upgraded, with the sticker on it of a company who monitors alarms, in this area we know Chester Security has a monitoring service, so with that written on the box, intruders select another house, but with EvoHome written on the box, they then know it is only sending you a text message so if they are quick they will be OK.

So sorry likely a waste of money, put yourself in the intruders position, load of homes, all with bell boxes all the same logo so likely fitted when house built, so some people will still have monitoring and some will have stopped paying, but you have no idea which are which, then one house to EvoHome written on bell box so likely DIY installed and likely not connected to monitoring station, which house would you select?

To me alarm means look I have something worth stealing.


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ericmark wrote:
To me alarm means look I have something worth stealing.


That used to be true, either that or you are showing your age :lol:

If you have nothing and some one has something then it is worth stealing. Today everyone has something worth stealing, if the thief gets reasonable money for it is a different question.

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ericmark wrote:
To me alarm means look I have something worth stealing.


That used to be true, either that or you are showing your age :lol:



We have an alarm (Obvious from the bell box) and cctv (cameras deliberately visible... well some of them) Our neighbours don't.

Our neighbours have been broken into twice. We haven't been.

as an aside we also have higher security locks on all doors including the Upvc jobbies... avc avocets anti-snap anti-drill anti-bump jobbies.

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