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PostPosted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 10:18 am 
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I need a new cooker, I have decided on gas as I like the gas hobs and I believe it is like 10x cheaper to run gas than electric.

I can put in 50, 55 or 60 cm cooker.

Is the build quality better on the 55 or 60cm cookers?

There is not much choice at 50cm range, apart from a hotpoint ultima - are these any good?


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 10:34 am 
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They are all simple technology an insulated steel box, a burner with a flame failure device and a thermostat. The hobs are basic with a spark ignition and the grills are sometimes a double oven feature. Read the reviews carefully as loads are continental built cheap sh*t.

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Build quality is nothing to do with size, some manufacturers are better than others.

Go for 600mm if you have the space as it makes the hob less crowded and you can get a bigger joint/nut roast in the oven. Have a look at leisure cp (google) for some well made cheapish ovens.

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I ended up getting a Hotpoint 60cm with dual oven and it is amazing, sooo much better than the old one and I am cooking a lot more now.


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Thanks for the update. I am glad you like your new oven :thumbright:

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i would say gas per kw is around 1/3to 1/4 the cost off electric
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instant on and off so no time lag far cheaper than electric
disadvantages
naked flame flame creep round pans more expensive to buy more moisture produce when burning gas
if you have a gas cooker point its a no brainer :lol:

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I have never been happy with our Hotpoint gas cooker the oven is the equivalent to 2 gas mark low (the main gas reg has been changed and it has been re-jetted with no change)

imho food cooks better with gas as it doesn't suck the moisture out of things like electric does YMMV


60cm gives you loads of options, 50cm limits your options greatly, it all depends on you budget £150 to way over £2k


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According to the maths I did, it is actually 10x more expensive to cook with electric.

That's using the official figures of consumption according to ao.com for a typical gas and typical electric cooker, then the unit costs of gas & elec on my tarriff.

As you say, it is also much more convenient to cook with gas, and doesnt dry out food as much.

I had to cut my worktops a bit to fit the 60cm but now it fits perfect and was only a 60 min job. Cooker was 330 quid, the dual cooker is great too as you can use the small top oven for small jobs and you can also put plates in there to warm while using main oven. And for a roast it is perfect to roast in main oven, then move the roast into the top small oven (off) to rest it while cooking yorkshires/roasties in main oven.


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I had to look up YMMV, just as well I did.

Bob225 wrote:

imho food cooks better with gas as it doesn't suck the moisture out of things like electric does YMMV


Electric doesn't "suck" anything out of anything. Regards electric vs. gas cooking, electric oven every time, Gas hob over standard electric hob buuuuttt Induction hobs are better than anything (though expensive to buy)

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lol it dries things out as the air is more arid - its what you use to I suppose I learnt cooking on gas, I did the first year of a cookery course (NVQ iirc) but decided it wasn't for me, that was all on gas


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mameha wrote:
According to the maths I did, it is actually 10x more expensive to cook with electric.

That's using the official figures of consumption according to ao.com for a typical gas and typical electric cooker, then the unit costs of gas & elec on my tarriff.



simply cannot be 10 times more efficient you may get small variations for example you may be able to boil a cup off water ten times cheaper because there is no heat lag
but the average cycle over normal cooking routine will be little different to the direct ration off 3 or 4 to 1
you may possibly get up to 25% more use per kw because the heat is more direct but cant see it being much more :dunno:
any way still worth having :lol:

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Bob225 wrote:
lol it dries things out as the air is more arid - its what you use to I suppose I learnt cooking on gas, I did the first year of a cookery course (NVQ iirc) but decided it wasn't for me, that was all on gas


A lot of cooking involves "drying out" you wouldn't want your bread coming out of the oven as wet as it went in ? Same for cakes.

Casseroles have a lid on so any moisture coming off will condense back into the dish...

BTW have you seen the size of my Yorkshire puddings ?? :lol:
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And no that isn't a miniature kettle. :mrgreen:

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