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Hi There,

I have got some heavy pine shelves (made from old scaffold planks joined together).

I want to hang them to a flat wall and put things like books / monitors on them. The issue is that the shelves are very deep and quite heavy and I want them to support heavy items - lets say that I want them strong enough to pretty much stand on them (not that I would)...

Looked at l-shape brackets from the hardware stores but they are generally ugly metal things or they are too small and most say they can support upto 20Kg...

So I am thinking I need bespoke brackets (preferably nice looking made of wood). Any ideas/advice on what I can use to secure the shelves?

Dimensions (approx):
130cm length
40cm depth
4cm thickness

Attach to flat stud wall.

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heeelllooo and welcome nailgun_fodder :welcome: :welcome: :welcome:
how long are the shelves and can you support each end on a wall :dunno:

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Hardware shops are unlikely to stock anything that doesn't move off the shelves quickly (the world is now run by accountants). btw, the 20kg weight limit will be per bracket

Check out "Strongbeam Brackets" they'll take way more than 20kg.

http://www.csi-products.co.uk/strongbea ... 53335.html

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Hi Big-all, thank for the welcome!

The dimensions are all at the end of my post, but the length is 130 (approx) cm. I am guessing I need a few brackets!

I can't really support the shelf at the ends, its just the middle of a flat wall. I could shift it until it touches a wall, but then it is not where I want it to be : (

In fact when I made these shelves they where for an area where it was surrounded by three walls and I had a ledge under all three sides of the shelf - it was strong enough to stand on : ) .... but I have moved and I want to re-use the shelves on a flat wall - but it seems a bit of a daunting challenge to get the same result...


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HI Ayjay,

Thanks for the link : ) ... but these kind of brackets are (no offence) the "ugly metal" ones I don't like : ( ... I my shelves are rustic wooden, so I was looking for dark iron or wooden brackets.

But 20kg per bracket is good to know - but I still think the ones I saw are too shallow at only 18cm depth : (, but as you say, I would perhaps need to look at a specialist shop - or make them myself, which is what I think I want to explore now...


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One way is to resin fix some studding in the wall and drill compatible holes in the shelf unit to mount it. you may need a number of these depending on the span

see https://www.screwfix.com/p/fischer-fip- ... /23386#_=p

and https://www.screwfix.com/p/easyfix-brig ... /98942#_=p

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you could make it into wall supported free standing unit
with fresh planks at each end to make it a ladder section although you dont need full width support it could be say 2x1" planed or rough sawn at the front and middle side each end with a partition at mid point or 1/3 2/3 along the shelve
remember open ended shelves dont hold books standing up books very well :lol:

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@dewaltdisney - interesting... so you are saying put steel rods through the shelf attached to the stud frames? I still think it would have too much leverage for 40cm.... but maybe combine that with some smaller brackets?

@big-all hm, yeah, that could work I could make a sort of groved "stringer" to slot the shelves into, I guess since the "stringer" (not really a stringer, but for lack of a better word) can be attached to the studs in many places it should be strong - just have to get some 40cm deep rough sawn pine - as you say, maybe does not have to be as thick, but it might look nice to keep it the same - thanks : )


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yes definatly look better if its similar thats why rough sawn may look better or even another scaffold board cut to say 3 strips off just under 3"

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You could also use the timber to form supports , a bit like dividers , in from the ends of the shelves . You'd end up with something resembling a noughts and crosses board with some open ended shelves and some "boxes" . I've done it before for someone and it looked quite contemporary and different.


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You just drill into the wall and resin fix the bars in. Then drill into the back face of the shelf (accurately) and mount it on the fixed bars. It will give a floating shelf look.

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Bit lateral I know but have you thought of a pieces of steam pipe or electrical conduit with flanges a cheaper variation on this
https://www.notonthehighstreet.com/urba ... e-shelving


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