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I need to decorate the bath, at present I have small edge tiles (photo) between bath tub and tiled wall. I will remove those edge tiles. Shall I use grout or sealant to finish the job. I prefer grout but was told better to use sealant as grout may crack.
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Grout will crack. Decent quality silicon sealant (dow corning) is best bet.

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wine~o wrote:
Grout will crack. Decent quality silicon sealant (dow corning) is best bet.


Yes seems silicon sealant is the only answer, was trying to avoid. Never heard of dow corning, is it better than unibond and polycell?

For best finish, do you recommend to use masking tape? and to use silicone profile tools and which one would you recommend?



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I use Dow corning along with fugi silicone tools

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are you going to remove the quarter round tiles an sack them an then seal off the join of bath rim an walltiles?


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yartin wrote:
wine~o wrote:
Grout will crack. Decent quality silicon sealant (dow corning) is best bet.


Yes seems silicon sealant is the only answer, was trying to avoid. Never heard of dow corning, is it better than unibond and polycell?

For best finish, do you recommend to use masking tape? and to use silicone profile tools and which one would you recommend?


Dow Corning is far superior to the :pukeleft: brands you mention... as to whether you need to use masking tape that depends on how good you are with a gun and how quickly you can work. either way you've got about 10 minutes open time to tool off either with a wet finger or a fugen tool...

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wes56 wrote:
are you going to remove the quarter round tiles an sack them an then seal off the join of bath rim an walltiles?


Yes I am removing the quarter tiles and seal joint between bath tub and wall tiles, would it matter?

I can replace them with new ones if need to. Now you ask, would it look better than Silicon? I don't like silicon as such. I can do with new quarter tiles and grout.

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you shouldnt realy need the 1/4 rounds unless theres a gap to cover between the bath and the wall. remove them and put some photos on hereshowing whats there. have you removed the bath panel and loked under the bath for water damage?
dont ever grout in 1/4 rounds, onnly use silicon because grout will fail in that position


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wes56 wrote:
you shouldnt realy need the 1/4 rounds unless theres a gap to cover between the bath and the wall. remove them and put some photos on hereshowing whats there. have you removed the bath panel and loked under the bath for water damage?
dont ever grout in 1/4 rounds, onnly use silicon because grout will fail in that position


I have removed bath panel and there is no water damage.
I am concerned if there is a gap between tub and wall and if that's the reason for the 1/4 tiles. I am doing it next week so I am remvoing these tiles and will put a photo.
The 1/4 rounds we grouted and been there since bought the house 15 years ago but now have to be removed.
What is the maximum gap so I can use silicon?

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There is no maximum gap as such a pic would be causing useful

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multiman wrote:
There is no maximum gap as such a pic would be causing useful

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I took the trim tiles off this morning and seems not good news, the gap is too big too be siliconed. Pics attached.
Guess there was a reason for the trim tiles.
I have taken of loose grout and still more to do. Few questions:
1. Can I use silicon? probably the answer is clear.
2. With new trim tiles, do I use silicon or grout? Any hints and vids appreciated.
3. Or use plastic trims?
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The gap is big at one side by the mixer but narrows at the other end of the bath. Photos attached. I have decided to use quadrant UPVC beading trims either 12mm (preferred) or 15mm which will be fitted with silicon. To use 12mm I will need to fill below the tile at mixer end, make it flat for the beads to sit. The depth is to fill is the tile thickness 5mm? , height 12mm and will be along the width of the bath 70cm. Will this work? What do I use as filler, will ready made grout do?

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Whack a load of silicon in any gaps around the bath edge... 3/4 tubes should do, Dow Corning for the quadrant tiles, but you will have to work fairly quickly.

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The old tiles were pencil tiles not quadrant (photo in first post), there were placed at an angle in the big gaps area behind the mixer, wrong ones for the job. Plus few broken and cracked so straight to the bin.
Ordered upvc 15mm quadrant trims, they look neat plus much easier to fit that new quadrant tiles, will see how it goes....


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Been busy to finish the bath seal, luckily I have a wet room downstairs.
As in the photo the gap was too big at one end so had to put some grout to level with wall tile.. I am putting 15mm UPVC quadrant trim which will cover the newly grouted wall area. Using silicon to stick the trim to wall and bath then silicon top and bottom of the trim. Will new grouted area hold the trim via the silicon? Or shall I use adhesive/glue to fix trim to wall and bath and then silicon the edges?
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