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 Post subject: Garage Converstion
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Hi

I am thinking of converting my integral garage into a spare room

The garage itself is only a single bay, the righthand and rear walls are part of the inside of the house and the lefthand wall is the outside of the house though it is a cavity wall. I want to keep the front part of the garage as a garage ie. just about the size of the up and over door, when it opens into the garage, to store bikes/tools etc and then just build a studded partition after that if that makes any sense?

I was after some advice regarding building regs/planning permission. Can someone please advise if I need either or indeed both, and roughly how much would it cost for them?


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You need to talk to your local council as you are changing the use of the garage.

The one thing they will probably stipulate is that the separation of the front part and the new living area is fire proof. You won't be able to store a car in the front section due to the size but you will be able to store paints, lawnmower with fuel in etc.


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planning no, unless your going to alter the roof height or extend the building..
building regs as in put a building notice in - yes..
price is usually a percentage of the total cost of the job, price your job cheap :wink: 150 quid should cover it...
stud wall sole plate on some dpc, double board with fireline and skim finish
building control will give you a general spec once you put your building notice in...
if you contact uhm theres some more info on garage conversions

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as skiking says, your first stop should be a call to your local planning authority. That will answer your questions.

With regards to cost, it's hard to say. How much work are you going to be doing?

Is there currently an internal door into the garage? If so, is it located in a position that could be retained, or will it need to be moved? What is the flooring like at the moment? Will it need to be altered? Same apllies to the ceiling. Will there be any elictrical or plumbing works, plug sockets, radiators etc? If so, what? Will there need to be insulation aded to the roof/floor/walls? What is the current wall finish, blockwork exposed/plastered? Are you adding any windows? How much second fix carpentry is involved, skirting boards, new doors etc? How much of the work can you do yourself and how much will you be paying someone to do? Where in the country are you?

Could be anything from £100 (new stud wall only, doing it yourself so just materials) to a few thousand.


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cross-post with cw. Yes apparently there is some good info on garage conversions from UHM :wink:


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thermal insulation on the floor and the celing is often a stumbling block as it will raise the floor and drops the ceiling by several inches

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how old is your house is another pertinent question.


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Hi

Thanks for all the replies very helpful :-)

I live in Flintshire north wales.

There are no internal doors to the garage, so i would have to remove the rear wall that adjoins to the kitchen, (non Load bearing). There is however and external door, was thinking as its difficult to get a match for my bricks can i leave this door as is and isulate/waterproof and board over the inside?

The floor of the garage is approx 8" lower than that of the house som i'm guessing i'd need to elevate this? (was thinking visqueen down then joists with insulation in-between and a chipboard lounge and grove flooring) The ceiling is already boarded and artex'd and one of the bedrooms is directly above. The rest of the walls are just left as brick finish. Was thinking of installing a window but not that bothered if i dont fit one. There are enough sockets there already just may need lowering a few ft.

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new insulated floor, new stud wall, new window, plaster all walls, remove current non-load bearing partition wall, cart away spoil, carpentry second fix and minor electrical work, somewhere between 3.5-5k

It's very difficult to estimate without seeing plans or the actual building.

I'd want to reassure myself that the wall isn't bearing the cieling joists. I'd also need to asses acces to site etc.


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theres a lot to a garage conversion, most of which many people dont realise may be an issue...

http://www.planningportal.gov.uk/englan ... onversion/

well worth a look....

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