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Hi.

I recently had my house rewired by someone registered with niecic. They gave me a installation certificate and certificate of compliance. But then I realised I needed 1 extra socket installed quickly (before the plasterers came) and had to get a different electrician in to do it at short notice.

He installed a spur from a double socket in the kitchen to the cupboard underneath the stairs.

He said he would provide me with a minor works certificate only and is not with a scheme as far as I know. Does that mean that my house will not comply with regulations?


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Pictures always help.
A lead from the far left socket is the new one. It then goes down underneath the sockets for the oven without going into them and then out the kitchen and into the new socket under the stairs.
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There seems to be a non compliance where far right in the corner a cable dips down out of the safe zone created by the cooker connection unit. But electrician is correct in England you only require a minor works certificate, in Wales you would need a compliance certificate as well. Don't know Scottish rules.



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He said he would provide me with a minor works certificate only and is not with a scheme as far as I know. Does that mean that my house will not comply with regulations?


I'm not a scheme member and I've issued minor works certs after putting in a new socket on a spur, or moving a socket when there is one where I want to move a rad to. I spent a lot of time, a couple of years ago, trying to find out whether it was okay for me to do that. It was slightly inconclusive if I remember, but I decided that there was nothing to say there was anything wrong with it (as long as the work is compliant and tested properly, obviously), so I do it. If anyone is able to shed more light on the specific legalities of that, preferably with references to actual regs, then I'd be interested to know.

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What Chrissss said. adding a socket only needs a minor works cert.

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I find a problem with the Part P requirement as it varies depending on where you live, near me there is a place called Kinnerton part in Wales and part in England and the only way to know is to look at council tax bill. So for two houses in the same street one I can work in the kitchen in one and just issue a minor works, and other one I need to pay council around £150 to do the same work.


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He said he would provide me with a minor works certificate only and is not with a scheme as far as I know. Does that mean that my house will not comply with regulations?


I'm not a scheme member and I've issued minor works certs after putting in a new socket on a spur, or moving a socket when there is one where I want to move a rad to. I spent a lot of time, a couple of years ago, trying to find out whether it was okay for me to do that. It was slightly inconclusive if I remember, but I decided that there was nothing to say there was anything wrong with it (as long as the work is compliant and tested properly, obviously), so I do it. If anyone is able to shed more light on the specific legalities of that, preferably with references to actual regs, then I'd be interested to know.



I would say that you are correct and that you can issue a minor works certificate without being Part P registered as long as the work is non notifiable.

The reason I say that is, because, just like you, I cannot find a reg that says you cannot.



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