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I thought you could still get them in screwfix or similar for trailing lights, i think they came under something different. Had a quick look and couldn't find any.

Dim days ahead then.

Watt...Watt..they are doing away with convetioal lightbulbs?????


I am Incandescent with rage..

(note the light bulb on the next smilie..it ain't low energy..)

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the last "normal" bulb left my house around 20 years ago
funny enough with every light bulb in my house on like an xmass tree i use around 60w which =around 600 to 700w

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I don't mind if people want to user flourecesentsses but I am an adult and capable of choosing how I spend my money. If I am willing to accept that 50% of the electic I use to light my home is generated as heat, then I should have the choice to use those filament bulbs!

I do not support the ban, becuase....

We have period light fittings in our home. For example the dinning room has black iron chandelier with 3 arms for three candle bulbs. Currently its fitted with 3x60w Clear Candle Bulbs.

None in the energy effiecent range available replace the light level or the physical look of these bulbs, so they are sh!t for my needs. And before any says Woooa thats 180w of power there! Yes, I know and its on a dimmer, so when we have dinner and want to set a mood, we dim the light, if I'm writting a letter at the table I turn it up full. See the practicle use we have for the dimmer, what energy bulbs supports that? None!

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as it happens i fully agree you should have the choice which you off course have
the only difference is you need to decide how many bulbs you want to stock up on as they wont be avalable

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I'm sure the boffins will develop energy efficient bulbs that can be used just the same way as 'normal bulbs'

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You will still be able to get such bulbs but you'll more than likely end up getting the light shop to import one for you and it'll cost a fair bit.
Much like you can still get 2/3/4 star petrol from specialist suppliers.

The energy saving ones are getting better, with the shapes and the warm up time but they aren't quite there yet.

LED is the way to go, just changed out the halogens in the kitchen, 200W to 2W in one go and the difference in light is only minimal, didn't notice it after the first couple of days.

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How about crossings and traffic lights.

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most new ones are already LED and they can be adapted easily.

The main gripe (I suspect) is that other people take too much interest in what 'you' want to do - if it's not the Government then it's the EU. IMHO there are far too many EU 'rules' and even knowledgeable political commentators are saying that the only way to recovery (for the UK) is to increase growth which itself requires FEWER REGULATIONS - just like the CFL lighting rules that must be costing business a fortune.

Then there is always the 'backhander' that someone, somewhere has got to get the 'old fashioned' bulbs banned so their CFL manufacturing company can make a killing. Without a doubt the decision was probably made more on bribery than on common sense.

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...and another thing, what are owners of glass chandaliers supposed to do?

They are made for point-source lights, originally candles, then incandesant. I don't see how a CFL will offer a suitable alternative, when the effect of all the glass surfaces gives a sparking affect to with a point-source light!

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Or Lighthouses...I think it's time to get out of shipping insurance...

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TH lamps are better than standard incandescent for replacing candles and they are not being banned. I have a chandelier which uses a metal halide lamp. The point sources are provided using fibre optics.

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Problems with these CFL lamps are,, Manufacturing costs (not exactly green compared with filament lamp manufacture)

Cost of disposal when the lamp reaches the end of it's natural life. (Can these CFL lamps be recycled??)

Problems if the damn lamp gets broken whilst in service (I used to work for the local council and they had an emergency plan to deal with fluorescent and CFL lamp breakages. Office or room where the lamp had broken, had to be evacuated by staff immediately. Someone wearing a mask and protective gloves had to enter the room, open any windows before scooping up the broken lamp into an airtight container. The office/room had to then be aired for 15min minimum period , before staff were allowed back into the office/room. )
So a typical scenario would stop people working for at least half an hour and involve loads of form filling etc. (again not exactly green)

Initial light up brilliance (not very good at all)

All in all CFL lamps are bloody carp.