In short is this any good?

Client wants OB gloss in Timeless but after Pumas post (lol) I am looking for an alternative. I have not used this before so wanted to know if it was a viable substitute to OB, before I suggest it to the customer.

Any help would be greatfully recieved as I start on Tuesday!

Cheers Guys and Gals.

To be fair i haven't tried it but i can highly recommend Jonnos aqua undercoat and gloss.

Yeah I know Johnnos is good but not sure their machine will get an exact match. The client is very picky, but that being said, I'm pretty sure he won't notice once its done, it's just the lack of DULUX paint can that might give the game away.

I'll have to ring Johnnos tomorrow and see what they say about a colour match!

Yes i know where you're coming from mate.

One or two negative comments re the whole Dulux waterbased trim range of late. Its a great shame if you have to struggle with summat just for the sake of colour when better and less expensive product is available.

He may not actually be in so I may try to sneak it in. The only issue being that he has already had some ob dulux gloss done in the hallway so it is bound to look slightly different.

I might be able to talk my way round it but I would rather suggest a cheaper, healthier option and have him agree.

Just use oil based white mate. It'll look like timeless in no time.

I wouldn't advise sneaking another type of paint in TBH, as there is a fair difference between OB and WB in terms of how they look, especially when there is OB already in the house to make a comparison against. If you are going the WB route, I'd talk to the customer first, explaining your reasons, and take if from there. If you get 'found out' your reputation could take a real dent.

Most people will be fairly receptive to information and logical explanation for why one paint should be substituted for another. And it's transparent and honest, with no fear of comebacks either.

Yeah I am with you there Dyna. I think I'll blame Puma for putting the fear of gloss into me lol!

I will suggest it, and as he has kids and pets the quick drying characteristic might sway it. The OB is in another room and was done a good while ago so I'll explain that it would look different to the new paint anyway so why not go the cleaner, less smelly, eco friendly way.

Fingers crossed.

Still looking for reviews on the paint though before I advise lol come on everyone!

And how they feel when they are dry. It's hard to describe but I think the wb feels less slippery when you run your hand over it.

Theres a new version of the water based gloss/undercoat from Dulux coming out soon apparently..the sheen on it is pretty good..but its the undercoat that really does the business...very very smooth finish to it

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Convinced the client to try it, as on advice from the dulux guy I was assured it won't be an obvious difference.

Report to come at the end of the week when I have finished the job.

i've yet to try out all the WB ucoat & gloss

i had stacks of of pre 2010 gliddens white ucoat & gloss, mostly gone now so will be looking at this WB shortly

it's gona be fun

They (the paint companies) are going to have to do something serious about w/b gloss and the cold weather if we do go totally waterbased in the future

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That's the bulk of Scotland knackered then

I finally managed to convince the client to use this paint, even though I hadn't used it before. I spoke to a member of staff at a Dulux Dec Centre, and he was adamant that the level of sheen in the water based would be comparable to the oilbased once fully cured.



I was very pleased with it in short. The odour was very minimal, which was nice seeing as I was using it all day.
Putting the paint on was easy. Obviously looser than OB but as long as you take care not to overload its fine.
Laying off was okay, I was using a synthetic brush, and a few light passes was all it took.
Coverage was actually pretty good. Painting previously painted trim, in good condition with one coat of undercoat. The first coat actually covered very well and at a push you could imagine leaving it as was. Seond coat was given after a light sanding and again it went on very well. The overall sheen was pretty much comparable to the OB the client had used in an adjoining room.
Drying time was good. Quick enough to do 2 coats in a day, but not so quick it was drying as you put it on. I was able to keep a wet edge while painting 4 panelled doors.

Overall I would recommend this paint in the future. My findings were found using it in "TIMELESS" so results may vary with PBW.