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 Post subject: Door Bell saga
PostPosted: Mon Oct 16, 2017 1:28 pm 
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We had a battery powered wireless doorbell. The batteries were always running out (weeks) and it was a nuisance as people had to thump on the door which is a bit alarming at times. Also the bloody thing has to go through twenty different sounds before we get to the simple ding dong we want after new batteries were installed.

I had a look at replacements but they were all unsuitable. I did not like the plug in type and mains wired is too difficult to do for a bell where it is. Anyway I bought a simple wired battery ding dong from Screwfix see https://www.screwfix.com/p/byron-wired- ... hite/80766

I go to rig this up and find I have not got a thin drill long enough to go through the 4" door frame. I thought I will never marry up drilling from both sides and the longer drills were far too wide a hole for the frame. I had an idea and took the drill out of a thin morticing chisel and that worked a treat. Then wiring it up I did not want those bloody cable clips everywhere so I got my (recently found again) glue gun and stuck the cable which worked really well and it is not noticeable. All done press the bell.......ding, no bleedin' dong. Grrrrr......... the new square battery I got for £3 must be duff. Check it with my multimeter (not that I know what I am doing) and it showed 9 amps so I must have the setting wrong :lol:

I tried the battery out of the smoke alarm and that was the same. Take the bell down and back to Screwfix and swap it. Rig it all up again and ding.......... FFS. I tell Mrs D that is how it will stay :angryfire: I bought another couple of batteries in Poundland and still the same.

Now to my mind this is a very simple mechanism (is it a solenoid) where a plunger is pulled back and released so it hits one chime plate and then the other before centring again. Can these be adjusted?
It says in the Screwfix listing that a Helpline is available but I cannot find it anywhere.

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9v battery ? not to sound daft but did you wire it correctly and is the solenoid in the correct orientation ? worn out bell push ? not releasing would make it ding but not dong and will a pull a low current enough to kill a battery

Duff batch of bells maybe ? our Friedland (looks like a D422) takes 4 d size and I cant remember when I changed the batteries last,

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Friedland-D422 ... B001T2JG08



Been there, Done that, friend had a wireless bell that use to set the alarm 2 door down when it was rung


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All I can see at the bottom of the home web page is a contact us button which throws up a 24/7 telephone number 03330 122 112 and allegedly it's mobile friendly.

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The bell you linked to has its own transformer, it does not run on a battery. It does say in the blurb "mains operated"

How about a picture of it with the cover removed?

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SE, I think they are common comments on the Byron range on SF, mine is deffo a battery bell wired to the bell push.

Flash, all components are new and it is very simple wiring to two terminals. I reversed the battery feed contact wires (did I imagine that you put that in your post earlier when I read it?) but it made no difference.

Mike I will give them a ring tomorrow thanks for finding that number I could not see it :oops:

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With the simple ding dong door bell the ding is done by electric and dong by a spring, if not level often dong will not work, and I have found often the spring need compressing or stretching because it is missing ding or dong.



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London mike 61 wrote:
All I can see at the bottom of the home web page is a contact us button which throws up a 24/7 telephone number 03330 122 112 and allegedly it's mobile friendly.

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Just phoned the number and the recorded message says the service is down :lol: :lol:

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London mike 61 wrote:
All I can see at the bottom of the home web page is a contact us button which throws up a 24/7 telephone number 03330 122 112 and allegedly it's mobile friendly.

Mike


Just phoned the number and the recorded message says the service is down :lol: :lol:

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Bloody screwfix, you would think a company of that size would be able to keep the system going even if it means using a temporary phone number.
Good luck getting through later on.

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when the battery do drop down it dings lightly, but you get a donk or a light thud as I cant compress the spring, so I doesn't fire it back


My mistake there C size and not D's

only reason I asked about wiring is some bells have 4 terminals 2 for power (used with a external supply) and 2 for the push and they can be wired in different configs

tbh I don't know why this door bell stuff is in my head :?


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How far's the cable run DWD? If it's too far the bellwire resistance will come into play and you won't get a vigorous enough ding, to give you the dong. :shock:
See if it works by momentarily shorting the push connections at the bell end with a bit of wire.


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I did that Dave and it still only manages and the bell to push button is only about a metre. I have traced the manufacturers in Bromsgrove so I will try them direct if I can reach anyone. I suspect it is cheaply made rubbish at £12 but is only a simple unit. I am in the middle of BIN painting at the minute (waiting for it to dry for the second coat) what fun :angryfire:

I will keep you all posted on how the bell saga is going :thumbright:

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Just thinking aloud really mate. I've had a job with them a couple of times. It's the classic problem. Ding but no dong. . .


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HAAAAA DWD hasn't got a Dong... I'd long suspected as much :hiding: (sorry DWD )

My current doorbell is a siemens jobby that plays MP3 files. (I don't have a "Dong" either) :oops:

At the mo it plays part of the Harry Potter theme... When I have time I'll change it to the "Tardis" dematerialising...

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London mike 61 wrote:
Bloody screwfix, you would think a company of that size would be able to keep the system going even if it means using a temporary phone number.
Good luck getting through later on.

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I thought the number was tech support? so that will not be screwfix.

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