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PostPosted: Sun Jul 01, 2018 7:12 pm 
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Hi all, I'm about to renovate my kitchen but have come across a snag. To get the room needed I have to remove 2 small walls that used to box in the previous boiler. Initially I thought it was a soot chamber but having opened it up, it just has a flexible pipe going from where the boiler used to be, into the back of the chimney (in the room directly behind the structure). Weirdly, this structure isn't anywhere near being in line with the chimney in the other room. There's also nothing directly above it in our bedroom.

I've tried googling for weeks but can't even find anything like it.

Thanks in advance for any help, please don't hesitate to ask any questions and I've attached a couple of photos.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 01, 2018 7:19 pm 
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I have attached the pics. Not difficult so please learn how to do it. :welcomeuhm:


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 01, 2018 7:28 pm 
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Thankyou! To be fair I did try several times but it said the attachment was too many pixels. Using my phone and haven't got a laptop, tried saving as jpeg but didn't work.


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They are old boiler flues quite common in 60's to 70's. Initially they were for solid fuel boilers but as the march of gas fired central heating came on they had Kopex flue liners into the chimney (what you have) until the balanced flue boilers came in. The stack is usually keyed in all the way up the supporting wall as there is no load bearing to ground. Your case might be a little different with that wall layout and as you might need a steel it may be an idea to get an SE in to check it and do the calculations.

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[quote="dewaltdisney"]

Really grateful for the advice Dewaltdisney. That does make sense about it being a boiler flume. I'm trying to avoid getting an SE out purely due to being at the top end of budget for everything else, but I know how important it is to get it right. There's an identical neighbour house up the road just sold and on the pics they've had theirs completely removed and no steel in sight. Gives me hope but not enough confidence to go smashing mine down... I'm a but clueless as you can probably guess, what does keyed all the way up mean and what level of work would be required to remove safely? Hundreds or thousands? Thanks again, really appreciate your assistance on a Sunday evening


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It is hard to tell from pictures. The alcove in picture 2 looks like the old solid fuel boiler flue. The door I think would have been for the chimney sweep access. There might be a lintel under that but the bit unsupported in picture 1 will be keyed in and by this I mean staggered in with the run of bricks. I am thinking there may already be a steel on the main arch supported by the left hand alcove wall.

I think your best approach would be a call to your council building control and say you are not sure if it is a notifiable alteration. With a bit of luck he might pop in and have a look and advise.

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Good shout, will definitely call building control first.

I did think originally it was for a soot chamber, but would that not ruled out on the basis that it doesn't link with the chimney stack at all, also that there's no sign of any chimney above having been removed?


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Spin a sob story that you are tight on budget and want to avoid making it too hard to do. The BC officer might be a decent sort and give you guidance. Good luck.

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:thumbright: Thanks again DWD


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Quick update, nice bloke from building control came round and said it's all good, to knock out the flue and the wall on the left with no structural surveyor. As long as the joists went in the right direction in the room above. Peeled up the carpet and saw a joist under the floor boards going the right way.

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A good result for you, I am pleased you got it sorted. Building Control are generally pretty good if you ask nicely. At least you can get moving now, thanks for the update.

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