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PostPosted: Fri Dec 01, 2017 1:15 pm 
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Okay long story but trying to find out if possible to fix myself as budget very low.

I ran out of diesel (1st stupid mistake) on my kia sedona 2005 2.9 engine

Out in the sticks friend had some diesel in their car but found out this had been reclaimed from other sources. (2nd mistake)

Did not know about manually pumping fuel through before attempting restart, tried lots of times before AA guy gut us up and running.

Quickly put in half a tank of fuel about 40 litres and some redex type stuff.

Ran okay but after a short while took a few goes to start, added another half a tank of fuel in..

Found engine check light came on as soon as I increased revs, so fine down lanes as soon as I joined duel carriageway and increased speed and revs engine check light comes on.

Soon required easy start (brake cleaner) to start car, but when started worked lovely...

Put more fuel in..

After a while easy start stop working and now almost starts but not quite, just as its kicking in it dies..

Asking around people have said..

It needs fuel line cleaning, but with 2.5 litres of naff fuel against the 80 litres+ that have gone in it since, I cant see this.

No missfire so dont think its injectors

Cant see it being fuel pump as once started fuel pumps through okay..

Thought it might of been glow plugs but cant seeany on this model although apparently you can buy them on car parts if you put my reg in.. (had a mechanic look)

So I am a bit stumped and looking for ideas on what it might be.

I dont want to pay a mechanic who insist on doing a fuel cleanout unless I really have to, but would try doing it myself if possible.


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Diesel fuel filter? If this is gunged up it would mean a lean mix/insufficient fuel flow at high revs (engine light on).

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Shows you the glow plugs here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBA3QGG ... l=carcomuk.
Fuel filter as K-e says for a start.
Could be an air leak somewhere on the fuel system.
They'll sometimes work when hand pumped to prime, but air gets in while stood.
Don't come to rely on "Easy start" there seems to be at least some truth in the old story about engines that have had it used a lot coming to need it. There's lots of for and against argument, but I wouldn't use it regularly. If you need it, particularly on modern common rail engines, there's something wrong.


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kellys_eye wrote:
Diesel fuel filter? If this is gunged up it would mean a lean mix/insufficient fuel flow at high revs (engine light on).


Yes I replaced the fuel filter, but I am wondering if I did it right or somehow mixed the leads up and air is getting in... be good to find a video to check.

Thank you..


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Dave54 wrote:
Shows you the glow plugs here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBA3QGGsbTY&ab_channel=carcomuk.
Fuel filter as K-e says for a start.
Could be an air leak somewhere on the fuel system.
They'll sometimes work when hand pumped to prime, but air gets in while stood.
Don't come to rely on "Easy start" there seems to be at least some truth in the old story about engines that have had it used a lot coming to need it. There's lots of for and against argument, but I wouldn't use it regularly. If you need it, particularly on modern common rail engines, there's something wrong.


Cheers mines a 2005 and I think the video is a 2006, I will go and take a look tomorrow when a bit more light and have a look, I think it has to be something in this area, but I do worry that when I changed the fuel filter something is not right and air is getting in.


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your urinating in the wind with out reading the fault codes

read the fault code(s)
Do a injector leak down test, as you could of dragged crap into the pump and gunged up the injectors

edit. the fuel pick up/pump could be clogged in the tank


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Bob225 wrote:
your urinating in the wind with out reading the fault codes

read the fault code(s)
Do a injector leak down test, as you could of dragged crap into the pump and gunged up the injectors

edit. the fuel pick up/pump could be clogged in the tank


will track down my reader and rake look... fuel pick up sounds viable..


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No error codes...

Over weekend have cleaned out all fuel lines, and tested fuel pump.. Put through concentration of engine cleaner through fuel pump and it started first time and died quickly, but think this was because there was air in the fuel line..

So pumped fuel in with hand pump and started again... Left running for about 15 minutes no problems, reved it up etc no problem..

Went to start it and noticed fuel was leaking from seal at bottom of fuel filter and hand pump was soft again. Fuel seems to leak out when you get it hard.

Fixed as best I could but I think there is a problem with either the sensor or the fuel filter although only just bought the filter.

So for the price of them have bought a better quality filter..

My question is would this sensor stop it starting and if so can I just disconnect it, whilst I find a replacement.


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