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PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2018 10:45 pm 
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hi guys I'm fitting new decking in my garden , was thinking about putting some lights in , now all the ones ive ever seen up to now look ok but either don't work or break down after a short period of time . ive done the frame today and will order the decking tomorrow , so just need a bit of advice on which kind to go for , solar are they any good compared to wired in type

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Most of the LED's I have bought are cheap, typically £3 for a 10W bulb, one odd one was £18 a 28W tube to replace a fluorescent tube, that is the only one to have failed.

Same with older CFL the expensive one's have failed, the cheap ones worked until replaced with LED. Sorry to say but pure chance. Some bulbs do last a long time but longest lasting bulbs first 5 between 75 and over 100 years are clearly just chance, and it did use 60W when first switched on, now down to 4W any normal person would have swapped it years ago.


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ok thanks spending a lot on the timber , and will look great when ive finished , the lights will kind of set it off , but if they are hit and miss id rather leave them as itll ruin the job


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You can buy rough service bulbs and fittings, when working on the Falklands we fitted lights on the runway designed to maintain even brightness and low maintenance, however we were told they cost £1000 each, may be not really that price, but were clearly very expensive.

The lights ideally needs to run cool, when a box with air in gets warm the air tends to escape, and so when switched off there is a negative pressure inside. As a result it sucks in water which would normally just sit there.

So there are two methods, one is provide a vent at the bottom so any water which does get in can drain, the other is a very good seal. Problem with good seal is they tend to retain the heat, so LED bulbs fail due to over heating.

Lighting yards at work we would always ensure drain holes and get fitting where it was easy to renew the lamp, be it the bulb inside, or whole lamp. We used plugs and sockets so we could simply replace whole unit.

Blagdon do pond pumps and lighting, they have a system of plugs and sockets so you can maintain the system with ease. I always smear the plugs and sockets with petroleum jelly, this seems to make them more water tight.


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ok thanks , ill have a look around and see , there were some solar ones I looked at on the net they seemed ok and had good reviews


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ericmark wrote:
. Sorry to say but pure chance. Some bulbs do last a long time but longest lasting bulbs first 5 between 75 and over 100 years are clearly just chance, and it did use 60W when first switched on, now down to 4W any normal person would have swapped it years ago.



TBH any normal person would not have mentioned it.


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OnlyMe wrote:
ericmark wrote:
. Sorry to say but pure chance. Some bulbs do last a long time but longest lasting bulbs first 5 between 75 and over 100 years are clearly just chance, and it did use 60W when first switched on, now down to 4W any normal person would have swapped it years ago.



TBH any normal person would not have mentioned it.

to be fair we are all different "normal " is very subjective :lol:
my brain works in a helpful but often confusing way my thoughts and solutiotions may be very different to yours :lol:
does that make you or me right or wrong in our approach :dunno:
well no just different :huray:

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PETER R wrote:
there were some solar ones I looked at on the net they seemed ok and had good reviews


Steer clear of solar lights.

Cheap ones are just poor quality and don't last long.

Expensive ones last a bit longer but don't get enough sun shine from the supplied solar panel, so you have to buy a bigger one, then you find that wired lights would have been cheaper all along

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ok thanks , decking is coming Thursday, frame is all done , ill put it down and see how it looks it might be ok and ill leave the lights, see how it goes


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