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PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2018 9:53 am 
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Hi everyone,

I'm replacing LED downlights in the ceiling and the new light has "push fit loop in/out terminals" (http://enlitelighting.com/gb/ProductDetail/EN-DE8). Most of the connections are straight forward, but I'm stuck on the switched light. The existing configuration has 12 wires but the replacement light's push fit connectors have only 6 input terminals, and each terminal fits only one wire.

How should I configure the wires into the terminals?

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:welcomeuhm:

best bet would be to reconnect everything as it was before, that has your live and neutral loops as well as earth continuity and switched live.
A better photo of the connection markings on the new lamp would help as would any instructions that came with the lamp.

I assume there is more than one light in the room operating from the same switch ?

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Thanks wine~o. If I try to re-connect the wires as before, there aren't enough terminals in the new light (the terminals don't fit multiple wires in a single terminal). So I'm left with a surplus neutral wire.

Here is a picture of the two lights: old lamp on the right has two wires (N-L) and new lamp on the left has six terminals (E-E-N-L-N-L). The lamp instructions are minimal (it assumes you just plug in the wires).

Yes, this is for a 4 light loop in the kitchen. Thanks!

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what I meant was re-connect as in your pic "incumbent" reusing the connector blocks, then just take a further cable from the connector blocks to the live (switched) neutral and earth to the new lamp.

I should say I'm not familiar with the fitting you have bought and don't know why it has 2 each of live/neutral/earth terminals, I can only assume that it is a "loop through" arrangement for installing several lamps from one switch.

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The terminals are loop through terminals as wine~o says.
The switching has to be done as before.

It's clearer when bits of the shots are blown up as in below. It says "loop in and out"


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@ dave 54. thanks for that. I zoomed in as much as I could at this end and still couldn't read anything useful

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@ dave 54. thanks for that. I zoomed in as much as I could at this end and still couldn't read anything useful

No problem mate. :thumbright:


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wine~o wrote:
what I meant was re-connect as in your pic "incumbent" reusing the connector blocks, then just take a further cable from the connector blocks to the live (switched) neutral and earth to the new lamp.



I couldn't agree more.


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Update: I followed your guidance and re-connected the original wiring in the connector box, then cut and fit two wires (live and neutral) to connect the wiring to the light fighting - it all works fine :)

Thanks heaps for your help win~o, Dave 54 and OnlyMe!


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