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I would like to steam wood for bending by conveying steam from my kettle on a gas stove to a PVC pipe containing the wood. What would be a suitable and cheap kind of hose to do this with? The kettle opening is ~30 mm. Thanks for any advice. Sorry if this subject is kind of shoehorned into this subforum it seemed the closest thing.


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using a kettle would be so slow for anythin more than a thin lath of wood or two. theres other ways ofbending wood but what wood is it an whats it for?
maybe the mods will move this post for you to carpentry forum


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Most homebrew steaming setups I have seen use wallpaper steamers, they create a much bigger surface area of steam by design. They are are also cheap to buy second hand.


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Yes use a wallpaper stripper £26 from Screwfix https://www.screwfix.com/p/energer-enb4 ... 240v/87160 When I did some steam bending I used a piece of soil pipe with caps on and a small vent. It worked okay but it was laborious, I have never bothered since.

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Another vote for a wallpaper steamer safer and comes with a purpose made hose.
Kettle is only OK for steaming other peoples letters open! :wink:


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Check your local car boot and charity shops, I see wall paper steamers all the time, usually about a fiver at a charity shop, car boot maybe as low as a quid for a mucky one.


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Agreed - go for a wallpaper steamer. Running an electric kettle in constant boil mode will result in the switch getting very hot quite quickly and potentially shorting out or failing. Steamers are designed to run for prolonged periods without problem

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I think the original question was about hose and diameter.

When we've wanted plastic hose of a particular diameter then I think we have found it at Fish/Aquarium outlets.


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What temperature does PVC pipe start to deform? I seem to remember it as being relatively low.

Depending on the size of the piece of wood, could you not pour boiling water over it? I boiled some wood years ago to make one of those trapped nail gimmicks to annoy my cousin.

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The object of steaming is that it is the penetration and saturation that has to take place to work into the wood fibres. Steam is good as the heat helps expand the fibres which suck up the moisture and makes the wood pliable. PVC tube works fine because the heat loss of the process never gets the PVC to the critical melt temperature which is 160 degrees'ish.

Well I never had it melt :lol:

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cheap pvc will deform with use, +1 soil pipe and screw on end caps, wrap the pipe in insulation or old blankets to keep the heat in

only steaming I do these days, Is the veg in the microwave


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Just pouring on boiling water won't do it, the steaming process is melting/softening the lignin that holds the fibres together, you need a lot of heat for a decent amount of time to achieve a strong curve that will hold it's shape.


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