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PostPosted: Wed Sep 27, 2017 9:50 pm 
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I'm building a chicken run using 25mm x 38mm treated timber. My question is what to use to fix the timbers together? Nail or screw and what size? I'm investing quite a bit in the timber as I want the run to last and don't want to let the project down by using the incorrect fixings.

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Build it as strong as you can, there are all sorts of creatures that would like to get into the run, not just for the hens but also the eggs. I assume the timber is tanalised? as some wood preservatives are toxic to animals. Nos



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sounds like treated tile batons to me :lol:
select timbers without knots for long runs off abouve 2ft/600mm
i would use 1 3/4"no8 or 10s[44mm 4.5/5mm screws] 4mm/4.5mm pilot
is this a low covered or a walk in run :dunno:

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This wood will probably split out screwing into the end grain. Although laborious I would use angle brackets like these https://www.screwfix.com/p/corner-brace ... pack/11067 With a cordless drill/driver it will speed up the job.

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I've made several over the years. Usually used 50mm square as any smaller tends to end up being flimsy. Halving joint for corners of smaller end screwed through and into a butt joint for the long side. Usually pre-drill and screw into the end grain using the biggest screws I can get away with. And then add corner braces, short lengths of the same material as the frame, ends cut off at 45 degrees, and screwed into the inside corners of the frame.
Strong but fairly heavy depending on the size.



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Try to bury some building blocks or slabs end on around the edges to stop rats burrowing under.



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We kept hens for nearly 30 years. Quite a few at one time. The best solution we found, if you have room, is electric poultry netting.



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My vegetarian neighbour has chickens and was trying to think of names, my suggestions of Korma and Kiev were not deemed suitable!


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My veggie mate asked what he could call his cockerel. (I still don't know why he wanted a rooster.)
It ended up being called "Paxo" at my suggestion.
Local pub had a couple of very tame hens for several years. "Sunday Lunch" and "Monday Lunch"


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25 x 38 won't be beefy enough unless you are making a very small run.

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Thanks everyone that's really helpful. The timber is 25x28mm tantalised roofing batons and I'm making 1 metre x 1.8 metre panels, connecting them all together to hopefully make the whole thing a bit stronger and using 50mm corner posts. Also, I'm putting a wire mesh skirt along the bottom, slightly buried, to keep the foxes out.

I was concerned about the screws splitting the wood so I'll make sure I drill a pilot hole. Good tip on the corner braces, too. I'll pick up some of those as well. We are going to put an electric fence around the whole thing.

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If you're using the electric netting that's all you'll need. Foxes, other predators, and chickens won't go near it once they've had a tickle off it.
I've seen "our" fox, come down the field with a rat in his mouth (good work mate!) and go around the corner of the fence, ignoring the hens who had run over to see him!
Incidentally if anybody thinks I'm bonkers saying "our" fox. Not really. The only time we had trouble with a fox, was when we'd left the one corner of the fence by the hen house a bit slack, not tied the post back properly. There had been a foxhunt, which had driven "our" fox away, and a "strange" fox into our "territory" and not knowing about the electric fence the fox had pushed through the corner. He got one hen, but the cockerel, who was a complete nutter although he'd been reared from an egg, had seen him off. The cockerel had a lot of blood on him. It wasn't his!
The fence won't really stop rats, they chew the bottom cord and get through. Ordinary fence they go over.
You have to keep an eye out for rat sign, and control them when you get them.


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Dave54 wrote:
He got one hen, but the cockerel, who was a complete nutter although he'd been reared from an egg, had seen him off. The cockerel had a lot of blood on him. It wasn't his!


A friend of mine was considering buying a sawmill, this was way back in about 1968, I went up to Inverness with him to take a look, (the whole weekend was a bit of a non-stop beer and whisky blast but I can remember some bits of it).

The guy who owned the sawmill was a Polish refugee/immigrant from WW2, he had a few chickens running around loose and three Pekinese dogs, the dogs had two eyes left between the three of them, the chickens had had the other four.

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I treat cockerels with great respect. They're "armed" with ruddy great "spurs" The ones on our big old Maran were about 2" long, and he was a big bird. He was a gentle soul though. Again, reared from an egg, either my wife or me could go and pick him up. No drama at all.
The other one I mentioned was a Maran as well. Same size and armament, but a complete nutter!


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