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PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 10:38 pm 
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have always known door step collections for charity are private businses with only between around 7-15% going to the charity
i assumed the shops would be much better with high 80%+ going to the front line-------------



------------how wrong can you get :shock: :shock: :shock:
from all the high street charity shops the average going to the main charity is 19p :shock: :shock: :?
with age uk at 5p and Barby Keel a local animal charity shop at the top with 65p

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If the recipients don't get 100% then it's not a charity, it's a business.

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Is that a percentage of the turnover? Or a percentage of net profit?

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in the case off the door step collections the are not a charity but give charitable donations
with the shops they are full charitable status but its the running cost like wages and rent that seems to eat up the money not so much at ground level where you have volunteers in the shops but further up the chain where wages are paid

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Hitch wrote:
Is that a percentage of the turnover? Or a percentage of net profit?

it just said from money earnt in the shops
so i assume after every thing is stripped what eventually how much land on the front line :dunno:
15 mins in
https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b ... -episode-4

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Well the shops are not free to run. Rent, utilities, insurance, some staff wages etc.


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I suppose the needy getting a fraction of the total as opposed to NONE of the total (donated) is the Charities way of excusing themselves and their expenses but that doesn't excuse them. I think the Government should define a minimum charitable donation level (say 33%) in order for ANY charity to receive such status.

Personally I'd make it 66%.

I've always advocated that charities should be mandated to display their 'given' percentage in LARGE NUMBERS on every form of advertising, front doors, chuggers badges etc else the giver is (basically) conned of their money.

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Charity shops are a business they still have overheads, and still need to pay the bills, even charity shops get shoplifters and stock damaged

I don't like door knocking collections as there so many, so called charities that arent

now collection tins on a counter I don't mind (even tho you need to chain them down these days) the change gets sorted and bagged up and banked directly


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I regularly donated to:

Save The Children
Oxfam
The Red Cross

I also used to take all my old stuff to Barnardos.

I stopped all my direct debits due when I found out how much the CEO's were earning a year. Martin Narey who was once The Director of the English Prison service and then went to Barnardos was earning in excess of 300k pa :shock:

It's absolutely disgusting and it should be more widely known.


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Plus the fact I learned Barnardos never used to take in Catholic children.

Back in the 60's my nana took in my aunt who had been orphaned at 9yrs old. They weren't very well off so she asked Barnardos for help in the way of clothes etc. They refused to help once they learned she was Catholic.


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We view charity shops as an alternative to the dump. We take quite a lot to Dr Barnardos, it makes it easier if an item is good quality that you do not want to go the general waste. if a little of the proceeds helps a kid then it is okay in my book. Rather them than Clothes for Cash bandits.

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Argyll wrote:
Plus the fact I learned Barnardos never used to take in Catholic children.


This is simply not true.

Barnados took in large numbers of Catholics. They would then bring them up as Protestant. Dr Barnado himself was a hardcore Protestant and firmly anti-Catholic but took in many Catholic children.He eventually agreed under pressure from the (Catholic) church to refer Catholic children to the church's own care associations as the church were worried the children were being converted.

There's certainly quite a bit to criticize there, but to suggest they turned children away on the basis of their religion is utterly false.


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columbiers wrote:
but to suggest they turned children away on the basis of their religion is utterly false.



Argyll wrote:
Back in the 60's my nana took in my aunt who had been orphaned at 9yrs old. They weren't very well off so she asked Barnardos for help in the way of clothes etc. They refused to help once they learned she was Catholic.



Looks to me like they did refuse, but bear in mind it was back in the 60's

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It was stated that Banardos had a policy of refusing to take in Catholic children.

That is historically inaccurate and simply untrue. Someone's anecdote about their nan and some clothes doesn't change that.

I have no axe to grind for them at all, in fact many of their practices were questionable at best, from formation, through the sixties and beyond. But what was said is incorrect and there's a lot of historical literature, both primary and secondary sources, that show this to be the case.


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