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PeteW
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 12:26 pm    Post subject: Ceiling Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Howdy...

I'm in the end zone of my halway job now.. rendered walls, lashed up the plasterboard and tape etc... before I plaster the wall I'm plasterboarding the ceiling to... which is nearly finished.

Rather than plastering the ceiling which isn't going to be pleasurable for a newbie plasterer :) whats the other method of covering ceiling before painting? I saw a youtube vid of someone applying a plaster/coat using a spatuler/blade type thing which did actually look more manageable for a newbie.

I'm going to be plastering the walls with multi finish and feel confident but the ceiling is another story! :)
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 12:39 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Sounds like it could be polycell smoothover.

If it is, then it will be expensive and I have also heard that some people struggle getting good results with it.

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Pristineplastering
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 4:31 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Yep, I agree with Handyman

If you can skim a wall, you can skim a ceiling - Smoothover is 25 quid a tub and may cover a square inch if used sparingly - Multi finish is 4 quid a bag and will cover much much more - No brainer !
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 5:30 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

skim it PeteW unless you want to artex it for now then skim it later. Laughing
if you've got a new plastering trowel and the corners at the toe are square and sharp file them round just enough to take the square points off
and deburr where you have filed, this will help you feather your lines in as you trowel.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 10:10 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

iv seen that video too, hes austrailian, different product....
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PeteW
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 9:54 am    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Ok.. I'll try the skimming.. I'll post pics of my wall skimming.. which I'm actually quite pleased with.. izalarfin - Yeah.. I'm going to take off the corners of the trowel.. I noticed them alot on the wall and had to really work at it to lose the lines where the trowel had been.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 5:51 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Laughing Laughing
don't do the heel corners you need them square, you turn your trowel around and use the heel when you need to get tight into a corner.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 8:35 am    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

On the wall I've just done.. I'm pretty pleased with it.. first go at plastering.. first layer, second coat then ploished... can I wet it down at some point and fill a alittle or tidy up? I think I can do better and would be ace if its just a case of wetting down and applying a thin layer and then polishing again.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 12:20 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

You've probably passed the point of no return by the time you read this - The key to good polishing is knowing when enough is enough and walking away - Any little blemishes should have been filled with the 'fat' from your trowel when you polish up - Wetting down now will have little effect - you should wet down as a last polish - Try a dry trowel later on this evening and see if that helps at all
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 1:29 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Ok cool... last thing...
If say your plastering and you run out of plaster to finish the wall... is it ok once yo have more plaster the following day to just finish the job and wet down where the new plaster and yesterdays plaster meet?
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 2:45 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

NO, mix up some more quickly and finish the wall - If when you say you run out you mean you have none even to mix up, leave a good edge of the fresh plaster ( cut with a stanley and spirit level) and then plaster up to tomorrow - It takes a skilled spread though to form an invisible join so best to finish all in one
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 2:59 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

If you get the join half right and level then using easyfill afterwards will sort out any join problems.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 6:35 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

PeteW wrote:
Ok cool... last thing...
If say your plastering and you run out of plaster to finish the wall... is it ok once yo have more plaster the following day to just finish the job and wet down where the new plaster and yesterdays plaster meet?


yes make it well damp with your water brush
as been said you need a neat square edge to join to to get the best join,
if I have to join then I chop the edge straight using a stiff sharp 2 inch scraper hold it at a slight angle so you chop towards the waste
side and tap it with a hammer, work any wide areas from the outside back to your line,
it doesn't matter if your line (edge) is 45º just as straight and clean edge as you can get by eye makes joining easier.
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