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If you want reliability then I would say Japanese are at the top. Yes always owned jap car low maintenance and cheap to repair. How do I know this asked a few recovery companies which make they get least call outs to and japenese cars were mentioned hope that help currently I have a honda accord tourer

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We wanted to go with Honda when my mum was buying a new car a few years back. Well respected as you say for reliability etc and it helps that we have a family owned dealership and garage within a few minutes of her house. We booked a car for an extended test drive to see how she liked it. Car looked good, good specs for the money etc and drove really nicely. We took it out for a drive to a supermarket about 15minutes away. By the time we got there and parked up both my mother (driver) and myself were in agony with back and hip pain from the seats, there was no way to get comfortable either as driver or passenger.
That was the end of our dealings with Honda for now.

She went with a Renault in the end, it's underpowered (our fault really) but has proved reliable and comfortable for her needs.


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Avoid parking next to any Citroen c4 cactus...

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Avoid parking next to any Citroen c4 cactus...

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I used to be a mechanic and one of my bosses loved french cars, always needing to be repaired so more money in his pocket.I also worked at a mazda dealership which was next door to a bmw dealership, we always thought they needed traffic control there for all the braekdown lorries coming in, we might see one a year.
My suggestion is that japanese cars are the most reliable but avoid those that are based on a european platform, ie nissan and renault.
My first mazda 323 I owned for 14 years with no major faults,I have had a newer 323 which we got rid of because it was getting rusty, the same for my first suzuki swift.I now own a 09 suzuki swift which I've pumped full of antii rust treatment and my wife has a suzuki sx4, bothof which I expect to get 10 years out of each.



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You cant get away from cross manufacturing, Nissan note - Renault clio, Mazda 3 - Ford focus, Honda have lost there way, the new shape jazz is dire, Honda auto gearboxes are very poor, as above the seats are torture



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Had discoverys and transits the last twenty years, still running transits for work and just brought a Ford Ranger Thunder for towing heavy trailers.

When looking for a 4x4 pickup, I test drove a Nissan Navara, the trader was knocking of 4k, when I did a bit of research on them.
They are all completely rotten I joined a group called Nissan Navara Snapped chassis via 2facedbook, there are thousands being scrapped from 05 to 2011, and now later models.
The chassis are rotting from the inside out, Nissan are offering part refunds, or in some cases removing the tubs, treating the chassis, but this is only to try to make it last until the warranty dates.
Its worth a look.


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dunno bout cars to avoid....

i put a deposit down on a renault master. went to pick it up. good ol look over it with a couple of mates. seems ok. went to close the bonnet and the bonnet catch broke. bloke was a bit pannicky like said he would order a catch for monday and i could come back for it.

ive since read some canny bad reviews on the garage so propper unsure now. if i duff it id lose the deposit like as the garage has mot'd it and that.

ive also since seen a vw crafter that i could get for basically the same price. similar miles etc as the renault master but 2 years newer.


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dunno bout cars to avoid....

i put a deposit down on a renault master. went to pick it up. good ol look over it with a couple of mates. seems ok. went to close the bonnet and the bonnet catch broke. bloke was a bit pannicky like said he would order a catch for monday and i could come back for it.

ive since read some canny bad reviews on the garage so propper unsure now. if i duff it id lose the deposit like as the garage has mot'd it and that.

ive also since seen a vw crafter that i could get for basically the same price. similar miles etc as the renault master but 2 years newer.


Depends what the deposit is fin. I'd probably go with it if the van seems decent, working on the principle that any s/h vehicle buy is some risk.
What warranty is there on it from the seller? I'm not sure about vehicles, but your statutory rights for a business buy of any sort are generally different from those you have as a private user.
Bonnet catch is neither here nor there really, as long as he does get the part.


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£300 deposit like

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Bit risky fin.....

What's the status of the cam belt (i.e. when is it due to be changed?)

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Lot of ifs and buts mate. How old is it? Is it a good price? Is there service history?
Everything else being equal, assuming the van's OK generally, I'd be loathe to lose the 300 quid myself.
A month's warranty isn't much, especially if the garage are known for being awkward, but I don't know what the standard is for commercial vehicles.
When I look at reviews online I try to balance the good against the bad. If there ain't any good, I'd think long and hard about it I reckon.


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fin is that the 2.3 (2.4), 2.5 or 2.8 dci - what sort of age and mileage ? iirc isn't that the same as the Vauxhall Movano and Nissan Interstar


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£300 deposit like

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:dunno: I thought that all second hand car dealers had to give a 3 months parts warranty unless it was sold as trade to trade or for spares/repair ? some sort of legislation back in 2000 and summat.

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