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Hi,

I’ve just moved into a new property and ceiling wires were exposed, so it’s not clear how they were previously arranged. I’ve connected my lampshade and light just stays on. Dimmer switch won’t turn t off. Picture included. I appreciate that in the picture one black cable is not connected, however I have tried most combinations with the same result.

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I've added the photo from your link.
Here's the preferred way to add photos to the site.


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Get another wago connector and move the blue flex from the connector that it is in at the moment to the new connector along with the black wire that is not connected to anything.


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Get another wago connector and move the blue flex from the connector that it is in at the moment to the new connector along with the black wire that is not connected to anything.

Yes that is what I also think will work.


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:Hi all, thanks for the fast replies! I tried your suggestion, but to no avail! See picture. Any other suggestions?


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When you say "No avail" what exactly do you mean? (bear in mind we are not there so can only go by what you type) so what does or does not now happen?

Why is the "lever" on the "reds" wago connector up? it should have the wire in it, and it should be down.

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Hi someone-else,

By "no avail", I mean that the light does not turn on.

To your other point, the lever is up on the "reds" wago connector as a previous poster suggested I remove the blue from that connector and join it to the black. When you say it should have the wire in it, I'm not really sure which wire you mean?

Thanks again for your help on this.

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Hi someone-else,

By "no avail", I mean that the light does not turn on.

To your other point, the lever is up on the "reds" wago connector as a previous poster suggested I remove the blue from that connector and join it to the black. When you say it should have the wire in it, I'm not really sure which wire you mean?

Thanks again for your help on this.

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I believe that someone else is surprised that you have managed to get two red cables into one wago connector terminal.

OK so the light now does not switch on. Did you by any chance trip a MCB or blow a fuse when you were first trying to get the light to work that you then reset?


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Pic of the wiring at the switch please. Any other lights on that circuit not working/not working as expected ?

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Hello,

I haven't tripped the fuse. No other lights acting strangely. I've included new pictures. Would it be worth changing from a dimmer to normal switch, or would that not make much difference?

I've also moved red wire into empty wago connector space as per previous comment.


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It looks to be wired correctly, so changing the dimmer to an on/ off switch (temporarily) would prove the wiring.

Regarding the dimmer which terminals did you connect to?

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Get an electrician in ASAP... you have a dead short to earth, that red wire in the backbox should be connected to the dimmer and with the electricity on will be permanently LIVE. The live is already damaged/burnt where it has been connected to the back box and therefore earth.

I'm surprised that your fuse is still intact so would think that there may be a fault at the consumer unit as well as at that switch.

In the meantime disconnect that lighting circuit at the consumer unit. there is a real risk of electric shock at any electrical point with that circuit powered up

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It looks to be wired correctly, so changing the dimmer to an on/ off switch (temporarily) would prove the wiring.

Regarding the dimmer which terminals did you connect to?


Are you seeing the same pics I am ? the live at the switch is burnt and blackened ... :scratch:

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Are you seeing the same pics I am ? the live at the switch is burnt and blackened ... :scratch:


Yes, but that looks like crap on the cable, the copper conductor looks pink (as it should) I don't see any black marks on the back box, I am guessing it came out when the switch was taken off.

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I think it is just dirt, not burnt. Unfortunately electrics are generally bad in this flat - the consumer unit is more than 30 years old and only has 2 fuses for the whole property, so can't isolate lights without turning power off to whole place. As a side note, the electrics were raised as an issue on the surveyor report and I got £4000 off the property price to cover a rewire, but not quite ready for that yet and just want to put up a light - didn't think it would be so difficult :(

If possible I'd like to try and reconnect that red to the dimmer switch. Which terminal should it go to?

(Sorry wine-o, I'm not ignoring your warnings, just doesn't look like it's burnt, and would rather get that live wire back into the terminal if possible. If you're dead certain that it's a danger, I won't touch it and will get an electrician).


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