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 Post subject: Breath alcahol limit
PostPosted: Mon Dec 26, 2016 10:33 am 
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Hi there, the deal with the wife on Xmas eve was I could have a drink and she abstained so she would drive us to the daughters house the next day, on arriving at the daughters house I asked to use their breath machine the result was .170, tried to find how this equated to the law in Scotland on the internet but the results were confusing, their machine is not a cheap one so expect it to be reasonably accurate, can any one reply to me explaining what this result means? please.


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 26, 2016 10:56 am 
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what is that reading measured in ? is that grams or micrograms or microliters ?

https://www.drinkaware.co.uk/alcohol-facts/alcohol-and-the-law/drink-driving-and-the-legal-alcohol-limit/

The alcohol limit for drivers in Scotland is different than in the rest of the UK. In December 2014 the limit was reduced to 50 milligrams of alcohol in every 100 millilitres of blood4. The breath alcohol equivalent reduced to 22 micrograms of alcohol per 100 millilitres of breath5.

The Scottish Government say they have changed their drink drive limit to bring Scotland in line with most other European countries, to save lives and make Scotland’s roads safer.

edit. Looks to be Mg/L .170 that converts to 017 Micrograms of alcohol per 100 millilitres of breath


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If that is a typical %BAC scale you where more than 3 times over the limit...
http://www.rupissed.com/blood_alcohol_limits.html
The limit in Scotland is 0,050 unless that machine uses a weird scale and moved the comma one digit.


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If that is a typical %BAC scale you where more than 3 times over the limit...
http://www.rupissed.com/blood_alcohol_limits.html
The limit in Scotland is 0,050 unless that machine uses a weird scale and moved the comma one digit.


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Forgot to mention, happy Christmas and a good new year to everyone on here and thanks for the advice received in the last year but still not clear on my breath test, I had a break of about 15 hours but had drunk a lot of malt the night before.


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Does your daughter not know how her machine works?

Seems a bit pointless if that's the case. :scratch:

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One way to test this would be to go out, have a half pint then drive home, making sure you get stopped by the police. Go out the next day/ night , have a pint and get stopped by the police. Repeat this daily in half pint stages, till it's game over. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Seriously, I was banned for nine months about ten years ago. I'd had three pints of lager. I'd been stopped before having drunk three pints and was well under. Only difference being that when I'd been stopped before , I'd drunk three pints over the course of an evening (8 o clock till eleven) and the evening I was over, I'd drank the three pints in about an hour. I did an alcohol awareness course after the (year) ban, so got 3 months knocked off. Forget all that nonsense about "it depends what you eat, before you have a drink." or "only sticking to one type of drink" Alcohol is absorbed by the body at a given rate and is broken down at a given rate. You could actually drink continually (albeit rather slowly) for 24 hrs and never be over the limit. (something like one pint every hour and a half or two hours). Women are more susceptible to alcohol as they lack an enzyme in their stomachs, us chaps have that starts breaking down alcohol, so for us men, a small percentage of alcohol never reaches your bloodstream.
Anyway, alcohol and driving isn't a good mix. I learnt a very expensive lesson (£340 fine and almost the same for the alcohol awareness course) plus my car insurance went up quite a bit. Nowadays I limit myself to either one pint of lager or two pints of shandy.
Don't forget, a prime time for police to catch drivers over the limit is the next day. You may well fell fine, but can be well over the drink drive limit in the morning. :wink:


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.170 converts to 017 or 17mg/100ml in the breath - so just legal in Scotland

but you may of been over on a blood test as your body needs to metabolizes it all @ a average of 15mg a hour, At one point yesterday you must of been 8-9 times the scots limit (or the mayor of Glasgow's lunch time tipple) :lol: :roll:


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Up here in Scotland you are basically f*cked if you have one drink.
Best rule of thumb,don't have ANY if you plan on driving.


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steviejoiner74 wrote:
Up here in Scotland you are basically f*cked if you have one drink.
Best rule of thumb,don't have ANY if you plan on driving.

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I've been breathalysed twice, I passed both times, one time I wasn't sure if it was going to be OK cos I had literally just left the pub after two pints, the last half pint necked down quickly before leaving, on the other occasion I know I'd definitely drunk a fair bit more than required (felt perfectly OK) but I still passed.

So here's my tip, it worked for me both times but don't blame me if it doesn't work for you.

While you're waiting to be breathalysed (you have to start thinking about the possibility as soon as you're stopped) breathe deeply - no, deeper than that - don't start panting like a rabid dog, just surreptitiously empty your lungs slowly and allow them to refill on their own just as slowly.

Could be I was lucky, but I like to think that that's what did the trick.

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steviejoiner74 wrote:
Up here in Scotland you are basically f*cked if you have one drink.
Best rule of thumb,don't have ANY if you plan on driving.


Even the day afterwards. :thumbleft:



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caravan72 wrote:
Forgot to mention, happy Christmas and a good new year to everyone on here and thanks for the advice received in the last year but still not clear on my breath test, I had a break of about 15 hours but had drunk a lot of malt the night before.


Yes, starting today I am treating this situation seriously, took too many risks in the past, don't know how i got this far but enough is enough, I agree with everyone here.


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caravan72 wrote:
Forgot to mention, happy Christmas and a good new year to everyone on here and thanks for the advice received in the last year but still not clear on my breath test, I had a break of about 15 hours but had drunk a lot of malt the night before.


Yes, starting today I am treating this situation seriously, took too many risks in the past, don't know how i got this far but enough is enough, I agree with everyone here.



Well, Ok, tomorrow, have to ferry family all over the place on Thursday morning so that's my goal, then it's another day! but you get the situation!


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We've (nearly all) all driven a car over the limit whether we've felt in control. When you get older and have kids you think to yourself that if someone over the limit hit your kid you'd go mental,couldn't forgive them...Well that's the way I look at it now.
The local I used to drink in from when I was 16 used to take your car keys after one drink and wouldn't give you them back until the next day. You'd always thank him for it the next day as well,food for though guys.



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