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I'm after advice on running a new ring main for the kitchen. The plan is I fit the back boxes, run cables and the electrician tests and terminates.
I have a few questions I would appreciate advice on.

1 How far above work surfaces should sockets be?
2 How far from a wall corner does a socket need to be?
3 How far from a door way does a socket need to be?
4 When fitting sockets for under cupboard appliances can they go on an outside wall?
5 When fitting sockets for under cupboard appliances can/should they be fitted to the inside of a cupboard?
6 Any reason why I should not cross bond?
7 How far from a sink must sockets be?
8 As floor is solid can I run down a wall to a socket then run down below work surface height and run horizontal on the * wall surface and then vertical up to the next socket? *Can I run horizontal if below surface?

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1. The height you want (often done to a level to match a tile level)
2. No minimum
3. No minimum
4. Yes.
5. Can if you want to, it's not a requirement
6. I presume you mean the sink. Well it's never been a requirement for kitchens.
7. As a rule of thumb then 30cm is generally considered good practice including from the edge of the draining board
8. http://www.ultimatehandyman.co.uk/how-t ... ring-zones should answer that for buried cables. Surface mounted cable can pretty much run anywhere.

HTH but please say if there is anything you are not sure of in my answers.

All the best with it.



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OnlyMe wrote:
1. The height you want (often done to a level to match a tile level)
2. No minimum
3. No minimum
4. Yes.
5. Can if you want to, it's not a requirement
6. I presume you mean the sink. Well it's never been a requirement for kitchens.
7. As a rule of thumb then 30cm is generally considered good practice including from the edge of the draining board
8. http://www.ultimatehandyman.co.uk/how-t ... ring-zones should answer that for buried cables. Surface mounted cable can pretty much run anywhere.

HTH but please say if there is anything you are not sure of in my answers.

All the best with it.



that is all very clear, thank you
I would bond as a precaution.

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There are some limits with building control all to do with disabled access, Part M however it really only applies to new build, but if the work you are doing is going through LABC then they might want you to comply unless you can give a good reason for not complying, for example there is a minimum height for sockets, but you can still fit them in the floor, not that you would do that in a domestic property.

It varies England and Wales, so no point in my finding the limits for you. In Wales a kitchen is still a special location so wiring needs to be registered you need a compliance or completion certificate once complete, but that was dropped for England, don't know Scotland or Ulster regulations.

So in general in Wales where I live.
1 How far above work surfaces should sockets be? Max 1200 mm.
2 How far from a wall corner does a socket need to be? Can't find it, but would not apply above a work surface.
3 How far from a door way does a socket need to be? No limit.
4 When fitting sockets for under cupboard appliances can they go on an outside wall? Yes
5 When fitting sockets for under cupboard appliances can/should they be fitted to the inside of a cupboard? Yes
6 Any reason why I should not cross bond? No
7 How far from a sink must sockets be? This was 14th edition, now no longer a limit as things like waste disposal need plugging in.
8 As floor is solid can I run down a wall to a socket then run down below work surface height and run horizontal on the * wall surface and then vertical up to the next socket? *Can I run horizontal if below surface? The rule is to stop accidental drilling into cables, idea is position of the socket or switch shows likely route of cables. So below the counter top use trunking don't sink into plaster and it's OK, coming down the wall to a socket, then continuing down to a blanking plate then horizontal to blanking plate then up to another socket would be OK as the blanking plates show route of cables.

The safe zones rules some times seem daft, if I fit shirting designed to carry wires that's OK but if I fit skirting with a gap behind for cables it is not, simply as some one may not realise there are cables behind it.

I did hit a horizontal cable myself in my own house, it went from switch at inside door to switch on outside door around 4 corners, it should not have been there, so did not test for cables. Had I not been an electrician likely I would have tested.


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