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I’m looking for a bit advice on wiring 4 leds from my centre pendant. From the photo could someone advise me which junction box or wago connecter and box/fittings I need. I’m going to daisy chain from this and if someone would be as kind to do me a wee wiring diagram I’d be most appreciative!
And is 1mm or 1.5mm cabling required?


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If you havent already, get your self the small "installer box" of wagos This one

also you will need one of These

I would use Image ones (you get them in the box) conenct it just as your cables are connected now. (Sorry, I can't draw like wine~O does)

I would also suggest you mark each core of the cable say with lines, 1 line on one, 2 lines on the next etc, then take a picture, THEN you can put them in wagos so they are still in the same configuration they are now.

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I can draw one of my infamous pics if you like stevie... First thing though your switched live and earth are both yellow in that pic. Make sure you mark either so that you know which is which.

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I can draw one of my infamous pics if you like stevie... First thing though your switched live and earth are both yellow in that pic. Make sure you mark either so that you know which is which.

Cheers wine-o. It’d be great if you could do a wee diagram,I’m a wood butcher and I’m not the cleverest with light wiring!! It’s single wires in a metal conduit and the pendant is attached to metal circular box which is gonna be a joy to try and remove!

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steviejoiner74 wrote:
It’s single wires in a metal conduit and the pendant is attached to metal circular box which is gonna be a joy to try and remove!


Actually it shouldn't be as bad as you think.

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Above is a conduit end box (Yours may be a through or even a T box) if you look at the picture you will see that there are two "tabs" These are pre tapped with 4mm thread, they will be how your JB is held to the box (You just undo the two 4mm screws and down comes the box. looking at your picture, look next to the red sleeve and also next to the black wires, in each case, there is a "well" that will be where the 4mm bolts are.)

How ever, as you have conduit and a JB I would suggest you leave the JB there as it is ideal for what you want, other wise you will have to fit a a blanking plate with stuffing gland and a lock nut to secure it, as well as choc bloc.

Also as its steel conduit there is no requirement for an earth cable (as the conduit itself acts as the earth) Your new lights will probably need an earth.

Check to see if an earth has been run (doubtful) and also see where the conduit connects to your supply as it may be be you have a metal CU and this is where it gets its earth from. If it does, you are in luck. If you look at the picture again, at around 12 O'clock there is a raised surface, this is also tapped out to 4mm and it is for an earth wire to be connected to. (you will need a round crimp lug and a short 4mm bolt)

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wine~o wrote:
I can draw one of my infamous pics if you like stevie... First thing though your switched live and earth are both yellow in that pic. Make sure you mark either so that you know which is which.

Cheers wine-o. It’d be great if you could do a wee diagram,I’m a wood butcher and I’m not the cleverest with light wiring!! It’s single wires in a metal conduit and the pendant is attached to metal circular box which is gonna be a joy to try and remove!


Remind me later. Electrickery is actually easier than you think (light circuits anyway)

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steviejoiner74 wrote:
It’s single wires in a metal conduit and the pendant is attached to metal circular box which is gonna be a joy to try and remove!


Swearing at it as you remove it might help!



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wine~o wrote:
First thing though your switched live and earth are both yellow in that pic. Make sure you mark either so that you know which is which.


I would not make the assumption that the yellow wire that is not connected to the flex is an earth! It could well be a permanent live.


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These are pre tapped with 4mm thread, they will be how your JB is held to the box (You just undo the two 4mm screws and down comes the box. looking at your picture, look next to the red sleeve and also next to the black wires, in each case, there is a "well" that will be where the 4mm bolts are.)


That was a very good and informative post :salute:

But is it a bolt or is it a screw?


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Thanks for the advise guys,it’s been much appreciated!!Lights all done. Once the pendant was removed I just crudely wellied the black circular piece in the loft with a hammer and it came away no probs. :lol:
I didn’t use the wagos as they didn’t have them in stock in screwfix(surprise eh!) so it’s just been put in a choc block and wrapped within an inch of its life with insulating tape.

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