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240v tools can cost half of 110v, so the plan is stick Yellow 110v plugs on them & Doctor up a Transformer to fool the H&S Clipboard Chimp. My mate can make PAT test labels to stick over the Data Badge on the tool........sorted!! :thumbright: :thumbright:

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You can use 240v on some sites providing it’s plugged into an rcd. It also depends on how desperate they are to get the job done. My router is 240v and I’ve never not been allowed to use it.
On the housing schemes we use a generator and we have a 240v supply and 110v supply,loads of folk use both 110 and 240 and nowt is said.

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steviejoiner74 wrote:
You can use 240v on some sites providing it’s plugged into an rcd. It also depends on how desperate they are to get the job done. My router is 240v and I’ve never not been allowed to use it.
On the housing schemes we use a generator and we have a 240v supply and 110v supply,loads of folk use both 110 and 240 and nowt is said.


Ah,but that’s in Fife ‘neeb’, where they also eat their young!!
We’re talking a civilised part of the country here mate.
These Clipboard Warriors are all over use here you know!! They’re a bigger PITA than ericmark or someone-else!!!

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But what's it for?

The HSE and many insurers mandate 110 volt on construction sites in the UK. That often means the only source of power in most areas of a site will be big red or yellow 10, 20 or 30KVA transformers (in other words there's nary a sight of a 3-pin 13A socket for 90% of the job or more). If a specialised piece of kit is needed which is only available in 230 volt then it is sometimes possible to write a RAMS which covers the use of of Defender (or similar) step-up box in order to utilise that one piece of kit in order to undertake a specific task, but it normally has to be run past so many people that it's a pretty pointless exercise trying to get permission

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240v tools can cost half of 110v, so the plan is stick Yellow 110v plugs on them & Doctor up a Transformer to fool the H&S Clipboard Chimp. My mate can make PAT test labels to stick over the Data Badge on the tool........sorted!! :thumbright: :thumbright:

It won't work on the bigger sites because they don't allow you to have your own "yellow brick" and a personal one would stand out like a sore thumb. Worse still some of those "H&S chimps" are wise to this particular scam and you'd find yourself getting ear 'oled PDQ. If the HSE were to catch you, it would be red card and a fine - and your foreman and/or employer and/or site manager could also be found guilty of a breach and be fined as well. The reasoning is simple - you are talking about using a doctored 230 volt output transformer with 110 volt connectors. In the event that some sneaky Pete decides to plug his 110 volt extension and tool into your doctored box (thinking that it was a real 110 volt one) then he could burn out a tool, be injured by a tool running at twice its' designed speed and thereby failing, or at worse his cable could be faulty (cracked insulation) and be trailed through standing water - which could result in a shock or electrocution of another person.

I neither condone or castigate on the subject. I'm just trying to point out that some things you were told earlier in this thread do have a bearing. I also happen to think that in his own way Eric Mark may have a point

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im closing this thread because the last thing this site needs is taken to court over some idiot seeing what you are suggesting and then doing it.

i don't like office pen pusher rules anymore than you so the choice you have is, abide by the rules or stop working on site, i chose to stop working on site years ago.



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